Why Does a Thin Cylindrical Shell Share the Same Moment of Inertia as a Hoop?

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The discussion revolves around the moment of inertia of a thin cylindrical shell and its equivalence to that of a hoop. Participants express confusion regarding the underlying reasons for this similarity in moment of inertia, particularly in the context of their respective mass distributions.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the mass distribution of a thin hoop and a cylindrical shell, questioning how both can yield the same moment of inertia. They consider the implications of mass concentration at a distance from the axis of rotation and whether visualizing the objects end-on reveals any differences.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on the mass distribution and its effect on moment of inertia. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between the two shapes, but no consensus has been reached on a clear explanation.

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Participants note that their understanding is hindered by a lack of clarity in explanations from their teacher and express a desire for deeper insight into the reasoning behind the equivalence of the moment of inertia for these two shapes.

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Hi all
i am really confused about this, why does a thin cylindrical shell has the same moment of inertia of a hoop?
i understand the I for a thin hoop is mr(square), and i know how to do this. but i just get confused why a cylindrical shell has the same result? and i don't know how to show the work.
i asked my physics teacher but he didnt explain very clearly.

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raycao88124 said:
Hi all
i am really confused about this, why does a thin cylindrical shell has the same moment of inertia of a hoop?
i understand the I for a thin hoop is mr(square), and i know how to do this. but i just get confused why a cylindrical shell has the same result? and i don't know how to show the work.
i asked my physics teacher but he didnt explain very clearly.
Consider a thin hoop and a cylindrical shell with an axis of rotation through the centre of both circular faces (i.e. looking down the tube). In both cases, where is all the mass located? Can you see any difference between the hoop and the cylinder if viewed end-on?
 
In both cases, the object's entire mass is concentrated at the same distance (r) from the axis of rotation. So I=mr2

What formula are you given to calculate I?
 
raycao88124 said:
Why does a thin cylindrical shell has the same moment of inertia of a hoop?
Because the cross section of a cylinder is the same as a hoop. You could combine a bunch of hoops together to create a cylinder. The distribution of mass versus radius stays the same, only the amount of mass varies (the "m" in m r^2).
 

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