Why Does Energy Seem to Disappear in a Gyroscopic Wheel Experiment?

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The discussion centers on the energy dynamics of a gyroscopic wheel experiment, where heavy discs attached to a wheel resist changes in alignment as they spin. Participants clarify that energy input is required not only to overcome friction but also to counteract the gyroscopic effects that resist motion. Despite initial confusion regarding energy conservation, it is established that energy does not disappear; instead, it is transformed into kinetic energy of the gyros and dissipated as heat due to unavoidable friction with the environment. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding gyroscopic behavior and the principles of angular momentum.

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I have tried to analyze:

I use a clock as reference. At 12 o'clock (Of the flywheel) the piston starts to accelerate. At 3 o'clock the piston has the highest possible velocity and KE.
This KE is transferred back to the flywheel between 3 o'clock and 6 o'clock. The cycle repeats with acceleration from 6 o'clock to 9 o'clock. Maximum KE at 9 o'clock. KE is transferred back to the flywheel between 9 o'clock and 12 o'clock.
The net energy is zero - zero loss. Can't believe I have not seen that. The similar will apply to the seesaw, and probably the gyro as well...
 
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Well done. You stuck at it and got there. :smile:
 
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I found an interesting and well explaining article about gyros:

"A gyro will resist any force that attempts to change the direction of its spin axis. However, it will move (precess) in response to such force; NOT in the direction of the applied force, but at right angles to it. The direction a gyro will precess also depends on the direction the gyro is spinning. Precession is actually the result of two forces: angular momentum (spinning force) and the applied force (torque). The direction of precession is always offset from the direction of the applied force. The offset is always in the direction of rotor spin. For example, when a force is applied upward on the inner gimbal, as shown in figure 3-8, the force may be visualized as applied in an arc about axis Y-Y. This applied force is opposed by the resistance of gyroscopic inertia, preventing the gyro from rotating about axis Y-Y. With the rotor spinning clockwise, the precession will take place 90º clockwise from the point of applied force. The gyro precesses about axis Z-Z in the direction of the arrow "P"."

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