Why Does Glass Become Brittle After Heating?

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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of glass becoming brittle after being heated to high temperatures and then cooled. Participants explore the molecular changes that occur during this process, the effects of different cooling methods, and the relationship between strength and brittleness in materials.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that after heating glass bottles, they become brittle upon returning to ambient temperature and questions the molecular changes responsible for this.
  • Another participant corrects the notion that quick cooling (quenching) strengthens glass, arguing instead that slow and uniform cooling allows the material to relax, preventing internal stresses that lead to brittleness.
  • A third participant discusses the relationship between strength and brittleness, suggesting that heat treatments that increase strength may also decrease ductility, leading to brittleness.
  • One participant provides an example comparing diamonds and elastic bands to illustrate the concept that strong materials can also be brittle.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effects of cooling methods on glass brittleness, with no consensus reached on the optimal approach or the underlying molecular changes involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants use specific terminology that may not align with conventional definitions, leading to potential misunderstandings regarding the properties of strength and brittleness.

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After heating some glass bottles to a very high temperature with a bonfire the bottles changed shape as you would expect molten glass to do, but once the bottles returned to ambient temperature they were extremely brittle. What is happening to cause this? I read that annealing requires heating glass then cooling it very quickly and this is supposed to strengthen the glass. What are the changes in molecular structure that leads to the the weakening of the glass in this case?
 
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bw800402 said:
After heating some glass bottles to a very high temperature with a bonfire the bottles changed shape as you would expect molten glass to do, but once the bottles returned to ambient temperature they were extremely brittle. What is happening to cause this? I read that annealing requires heating glass then cooling it very quickly and this is supposed to strengthen the glass.

"WORNG." Cool slowly, and uniformly to allow the material to relax --- a quick quench locks in all sorts of stresses, resulting in easy breakage.

What are the changes in molecular structure that leads to the the weakening of the glass in this case?

The only change in chemistry from heating is that you can burn the sodium out of a glass, leaving you with a higher silica content, slightly higher temperature softening point.
 
bw800402 said:
After heating some glass bottles to a very high temperature with a bonfire the bottles changed shape as you would expect molten glass to do, but once the bottles returned to ambient temperature they were extremely brittle. What is happening to cause this? I read that annealing requires heating glass then cooling it very quickly and this is supposed to strengthen the glass. What are the changes in molecular structure that leads to the the weakening of the glass in this case?
You're using very specific terms in very general ways. Strength and brittleness are not "opposite" properties. In fact, they usually go hand in hand. Any heat treatment that makes something stronger (gives it a higher breaking strength) typically makes it more brittle (lowers the strain at failure).

So how did you cool the glass?
 
Gokul is right, a diamond is really strong, but it's also really brittle. Which is why you can break diamonds with a hammer. On the other hand elastic bands are fairly weak and if you stretch them enough it breaks without much force, but they're not brittle at all, you can fold it and bend it and nothing will happen to it.
 

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