Why Does Light Take 8 Minutes to Reach Earth from the Sun

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the question of why light takes approximately 8 minutes to travel from the Sun to Earth, particularly focusing on the perception of time from the perspective of a photon versus the experience of observers on Earth. The scope includes conceptual clarifications and explorations of relativistic effects.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that from the perspective of a photon, it experiences zero time and zero distance, suggesting that it must be at both the Sun and Earth simultaneously.
  • Others argue that this perspective is neither correct nor relevant, emphasizing that light takes a measurable time of 8 minutes to travel the distance in our frame of reference.
  • A participant questions what we experience that takes 8 minutes, implying a need for clarification on the nature of time as measured by observers.
  • Another participant asserts that the time light takes to travel from the Sun to Earth is what is measured in our frame of reference, and that other frames, including that of light, are not relevant to this measurement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of time experienced by light versus observers, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a consensus on the interpretation of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of time and distance as experienced by light and observers, which may depend on specific definitions and frames of reference. The relevance of different frames of reference remains unresolved.

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Light experiences zero time and zero distance so for a photon it must be here and there at the same instance. As the moment a photon is created it must be at position A and B at the same moment.
So for a Photon it takes zero time to reach Earth from the sun.
Why do we then see light taking 8 minutes to reach us?
 
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stavragy said:
So for a Photon it takes zero time to reach Earth from the sun.
This is neither correct nor relevant. See the FAQ: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=511170

stavragy said:
Why do we then see light taking 8 minutes to reach us?
Because the sun is a distance of c*8min away in our frame.
 
stavragy said:
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Light experiences zero time ...Why do we then see light taking 8 minutes to reach us?
We experience 8 minutes, not the light.
 
A.T. said:
stavragy said:
Question:
Light experiences zero time ...Why do we then see light taking 8 minutes to reach us?
We experience 8 minutes, not the light.
What do we experience that takes 8 minutes (aside from the fact that it takes 8 minutes for our clock to tick through 8 minutes)?
 
ghwellsjr said:
What do we experience that takes 8 minutes (aside from the fact that it takes 8 minutes for our clock to tick through 8 minutes)?
The time that light takes to go from the sun to the earth, as measured in our frame of reference, of course. (Which is what the ticking clock measures.) How long it takes light to go from the Earth to the sun in any other frame of reference, including that of light, is not relevant.
 

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