Why does mass not affect sliding speed down an inclined plane?

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The discussion revolves around the physics of objects sliding down an inclined plane, specifically examining the relationship between mass, gravitational force, and acceleration. Participants are exploring why mass does not affect the sliding speed of objects in this context.

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  • Participants are questioning the implications of Newton's second law (F = ma) and how it relates to gravitational force and acceleration for different masses. There is an exploration of assumptions regarding simultaneous starting conditions and the nature of forces acting on the objects.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning the underlying assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between force and mass, but multiple interpretations of the scenario are being explored without a clear consensus.

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There are assumptions about the conditions under which the objects start sliding, such as starting at the same time and the nature of the incline. The discussion also references historical experiments, indicating a potential exploration of classical physics principles.

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Two kids of different masses are having a toboggan race down a frictionless hill. Which kid reaches the bottom first: the one with less mass or the one with more?
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F = ma
I think that both kids experience the same acceleration (irrespective of mass) since the only force pushing them downwards is acceleration due to gravity, which is the same for both of them. Thus, since they start sliding down the hill at the same time (assumption), and are accelerating at the exact same rate, they should both reach the bottom at the same time. However, if F = ma and a is the same for both, then the one with more mass will experience a greater total force, which seems like it would make him reach the bottom first... but how is that possible if they both experience the exact same acceleration?
 
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I'm not sure I understand your question. The larger mass requires a larger force to move it down the incline. This is not inconsistent with it reaching it the bottom of the incline at the same time as the smaller mass.
 
F = ma, but gravitational force is also proportional to mass.
 
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What do you mean by why ?
 
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