Why does math describe physics so perfectly?

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The discussion explores the relationship between mathematical expressions and physical laws, particularly focusing on why certain mathematical forms, such as the inverse square law of gravitational attraction, appear to describe physical phenomena so precisely. The conversation touches on dimensionality and its implications for mathematical relationships in physics.

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  • One participant questions why the exponent in the gravitational attraction equation is a whole number (specifically 2) rather than a non-integer, suggesting a fundamental nature to whole number exponents.
  • Another participant asserts that the exponent is related to the dimensionality of space, specifically stating that in three-dimensional space, the power is d-1.
  • A different participant notes that the 1/r² relationship leads to elliptical orbits in Newtonian mechanics, while general relativity introduces additional terms that modify this relationship.
  • One participant expresses curiosity about the connection between dimensionality and exponent values, asking for clarification on whether the d-1 rule applies universally across different dimensions.
  • A later reply explains that in N dimensions, the strength of the field is inversely related to the surface area of an N-sphere, providing a specific example for both three and nine dimensions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the relationship between dimensionality and mathematical exponents, with some agreeing on the connection while others seek further clarification. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the deeper implications of these relationships.

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Participants have not fully explored the underlying reasons for the relationship between dimensionality and exponent values, leaving some assumptions and logical connections unexamined.

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How is it that the numbers we get for our equations describe the laws of physics so cleanly? As a good example, take the equation for gravitational attraction.

The strength of the gravitational attraction is divided by the distance squared, AKA the distance x the distance itself.

But r^2 seems like too perfect of a coincidence. Why wouldn't it be to the power of some random non whole number that reflected the randomness of the universe?
i.e.

r^2.02934

This means there must be something special and fundamental about whole number exponentials, but I am not sure what it is or why it is.

So why exactly is it that the distance is multiplied by itself exactly once in that equation, and many others?
 
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In the case you mention, it's because we live in 3.00000 dimensional space, and that power is d-1.
 
1/r2 has the nice property that the orbit of a planet is an ellipse (if we neglect the influence of the other planets).

General relativity predicts that the orbits are not exactly ellipses. If I remember correctly, it predicts a result that corresponds to what we'd get from Newtonian mechanics with terms proportional to 1/r2, 1/r3, 1/r4, and so on in the formula for the gravitational force.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
In the case you mention, it's because we live in 3.00000 dimensional space, and that power is d-1.

Ahh, i didnt expect an answer relating to the dimensionality of space, that's very interesting, and makes perfect sense.

Unfortunately, i have no idea why it makes perfect sense, and don't understand the logic of the relationship between number of dimensions and degree of exponents.

Dare i ask why? Or would that be too complicated?

Also, that d-1 rule applies as a blanket for any dimensional space? Does that mean that a 9 dimensional space would have r^8?
 
In this case, the strength of the field in N dimensions is inversely related to the surface of an N-sphere or radius r. In 3 dimensions, the area is 4pi r^2, and there is your 1/r^2. In 9 dimensions, the area of a 9-sphere is something like 32pi^4/105 r^8, so there you get a 1/r^8 field.
 

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