Why Does My Acceleration Calculation Differ from the AP Mechanics Scoring Guide?

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This discussion revolves around a problem from the 2009 AP C Mechanics Exam, focusing on the calculation of acceleration for a 3.0 kg object moving along the x-axis under conservative forces. The original poster presents their calculations for total mechanical energy, momentum, and acceleration, noting a discrepancy between their result and the scoring guide.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate acceleration using both the derivative of velocity and a finite difference method, questioning the validity of their results. Some participants suggest reconsidering the application of the chain rule and the definition of acceleration.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the correct approach to differentiation and questioning the assumptions made by the original poster. There is an acknowledgment of potential errors in the original poster's calculations, but no consensus has been reached regarding the correct method.

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Participants are discussing the implications of using the correct derivative with respect to time versus position, as well as the need to verify calculations against established solutions. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their methods and results.

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This problem is from the 2009 AP C Mechanics Exam. I get the same answers as the posted solutions except for part d. I'm hoping someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'm going to show my work for part a and part c even though I got them correct, because they are used for part d.

A 3.0 kg object is moving along the x-axis in a region where its potential energy as a function of x is given as , where U is in joules and x is in meters. When the object passes the point x = -0.50 m, its velocity is + 2.0 m/s. All forces acting on the object are conservative.

(a) Calculate the total mechanical energy of the object.
<br /> E = KE + PE = \frac{1}{2}mv^2 + 4x^2 \\ <br /> = \frac{1}{2}\left( {3\,{\rm{kg}}} \right)\left( {2\,{\rm{m/s}}} \right)^2 + 4\left( { - 0.5\,{\rm{m}}} \right)^2 =7 J \\ <br />
(b) Calculate the x-coordinate of any points at which the object has zero kinetic energy.
(c) Calculate the magnitude of the momentum of the object at x = 0.60 m.
Come up with a formula for velocity as a function of time, using the formula derived in part a. This velocity formula will also be used in part d.
<br /> KE = \frac{1}{2}mv^2 = E - U = 7 - 4x^2 \\ <br /> v = \sqrt {\frac{{14 - 8x^2 }}{m}} = \sqrt {\frac{{14 - 8\left( {0.6} \right)^2 }}{3}} = 1.93\,{\rm{m/s}} \\ <br /> p = mv = \left( 3 \right)\left( {1.93} \right) = 5.77\,{\rm{kg - m/s}} \\ <br />

(d) Calculate the magnitude of the acceleration of the object as it passes x = 0.60 m.
acceleration is the derivative of velocity, so take the derivative and set t to 0.6.
<br /> KE\left( x \right) = 7 - U\left( x \right) = 7 - 4x^2 \\ <br /> v\left( x \right) = \sqrt {\frac{{2\left( {7 - 4x^2 } \right)}}{m}} \\ <br /> a\left( x \right) = \frac{1}{2}\frac{2}{m}\left( { - 8x} \right)\left[ {\frac{{2\left( {7 - 4x^2 } \right)}}{m}} \right]^{ - 1/2} \\ <br /> \frac{{ - 8x}}{m}\left[ {\frac{{2\left( {7 - 4x^2 } \right)}}{m}} \right]^{ - 1/2} \\ <br /> \frac{{ - 8\left( {0.6} \right)}}{3}\left[ {\frac{{2\left( {7 - 4\left( {0.6} \right)^2 } \right)}}{3}} \right]^{ - 1/2} =-0.83 m/s^{2} \\ <br />

But this is not the same answer as the scoring guide. They get 1.6 m/s2.
I know my velocity formula is correct, because I got the correct momentum in part c. I'm pretty sure I took the derivative correctly. I even verified that with graphing software.

Additionally, I did a double check by using my velocity formula to compute the velocity at 0.6 s and 0.6001 s. The acceleration would then be (v2-v1)/Δx , where Δx is 0.0001. I also get -0.83 m/s2 with this method.

How did I get the same wrong answer using 2 different methods?

Their justification is here: http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/public/repository/ap09_physics_c_mechanics_sgs.pdf

Thanks!
 
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Yeah, tricky. I think you're the one who's in the wrong though, unfortunately. You solved part d by assuming this:

##a(x) = \frac{d}{dx}v(x)## × WRONG

What's actually true is that acceleration is the TIME derivative of velocity:$$a(x) = \frac{d}{dt}v(x)$$ and so you have to differentiate using the chain rule, just like they did in the solutions manual.

Your first method was to calculate dv/dx exactly, and your second method was to calculate Δv/Δx for a small but finite Δx of 0.0001. Both of these were wrong, because neither of them is the acceleration, which is dv/dt (instantaneous) or Δv/Δt (average).

tony873004 said:
This problem is from the 2009 AP C Mechanics Exam. I get the same answers as the posted solutions except for part d. I'm hoping someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'm going to show my work for part a and part c even though I got them correct, because they are used for part d.

A 3.0 kg object is moving along the x-axis in a region where its potential energy as a function of x is given as , where U is in joules and x is in meters. When the object passes the point x = -0.50 m, its velocity is + 2.0 m/s. All forces acting on the object are conservative.

(a) Calculate the total mechanical energy of the object.
<br /> E = KE + PE = \frac{1}{2}mv^2 + 4x^2 \\ <br /> = \frac{1}{2}\left( {3\,{\rm{kg}}} \right)\left( {2\,{\rm{m/s}}} \right)^2 + 4\left( { - 0.5\,{\rm{m}}} \right)^2 =7 J \\ <br />
(b) Calculate the x-coordinate of any points at which the object has zero kinetic energy.
(c) Calculate the magnitude of the momentum of the object at x = 0.60 m.
Come up with a formula for velocity as a function of time, using the formula derived in part a. This velocity formula will also be used in part d.
<br /> KE = \frac{1}{2}mv^2 = E - U = 7 - 4x^2 \\ <br /> v = \sqrt {\frac{{14 - 8x^2 }}{m}} = \sqrt {\frac{{14 - 8\left( {0.6} \right)^2 }}{3}} = 1.93\,{\rm{m/s}} \\ <br /> p = mv = \left( 3 \right)\left( {1.93} \right) = 5.77\,{\rm{kg - m/s}} \\ <br />

(d) Calculate the magnitude of the acceleration of the object as it passes x = 0.60 m.
acceleration is the derivative of velocity, so take the derivative and set t to 0.6.
<br /> KE\left( x \right) = 7 - U\left( x \right) = 7 - 4x^2 \\ <br /> v\left( x \right) = \sqrt {\frac{{2\left( {7 - 4x^2 } \right)}}{m}} \\ <br /> a\left( x \right) = \frac{1}{2}\frac{2}{m}\left( { - 8x} \right)\left[ {\frac{{2\left( {7 - 4x^2 } \right)}}{m}} \right]^{ - 1/2} \\ <br /> \frac{{ - 8x}}{m}\left[ {\frac{{2\left( {7 - 4x^2 } \right)}}{m}} \right]^{ - 1/2} \\ <br /> \frac{{ - 8\left( {0.6} \right)}}{3}\left[ {\frac{{2\left( {7 - 4\left( {0.6} \right)^2 } \right)}}{3}} \right]^{ - 1/2} =-0.83 m/s^{2} \\ <br />

But this is not the same answer as the scoring guide. They get 1.6 m/s2.
I know my velocity formula is correct, because I got the correct momentum in part c. I'm pretty sure I took the derivative correctly. I even verified that with graphing software.

Additionally, I did a double check by using my velocity formula to compute the velocity at 0.6 s and 0.6001 s. The acceleration would then be (v2-v1)/Δx , where Δx is 0.0001. I also get -0.83 m/s2 with this method.

How did I get the same wrong answer using 2 different methods?

Their justification is here: http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/public/repository/ap09_physics_c_mechanics_sgs.pdf

Thanks!
 
Redo your derivative. Looks like you messed up when applying the chain rule. And as cepheid explains, you need the derivative with respect to time to do it your way.

The easy way to find the acceleration is to first find the force: F = - dU/dx
 
I was pretty sure I was the one who got it wrong. If they made a mistake, they would have noticed it after grading a few thousand exams! Thanks Cephid and Doc Al. I could have stared at that for another hour and not noticed my wrong variable!
 

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