Why Does My Calculation of Line Impedance Differ from the Textbook's Result?

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The discussion revolves around a calculation of line impedance in a balanced three-phase wye-wye system, comparing the participant's result with that of a textbook. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and potential conceptual clarifications regarding load and line impedances.

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Main Points Raised

  • The participant presents their calculation method for determining line impedance, using a voltage divider approach.
  • The calculated line impedance is reported as 0.134 + 0.306j Ω, differing from the textbook's result of 0.5 + 0.5j Ω.
  • One participant suggests that the discrepancy may arise from the interpretation of the load impedance, questioning whether it represents individual Y impedances or a parallel combination.
  • Another participant expresses agreement with the calculation but suggests consulting a professor for further clarification.
  • A later reply indicates that the original poster has not been able to follow up on the discussion due to being away from school and lacking resources.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the reason for the discrepancy in results, and multiple competing views regarding the interpretation of load impedance are present.

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The discussion highlights potential ambiguities in the definitions of load and line impedances in a wye-wye configuration, as well as the impact of these definitions on the calculated results.

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I would like to know what I'm doing wrong here. I am not getting what the book has.

Q: In a balanced three-phase wye-wye system, the load impedance is 8+j4\Omega. The source has phase sequence abc and \bar V_{an} = 120<0\,\,V_{rms}. If the load voltage \bar V_{AN} = 116.62<-1.33\,\,V_{rms} determine the line impedence.

Please excuse me being lazy and not looking up how to properly represent polar numbers in LaTeX. Thus X < 90 would mean a magnitude of X with a phase angle of 90 (in degrees).

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This is how I'm going about it:
\bar Z_{load} = 8+j4 \Omega
\bar V_{an} = 120 < 0 \,\,V_{rms}
\bar V_{AN} = 111.62 < -1.33 \,\,V_{rms}
\bar Z_{line} = ?

So I simply setup a voltage divider:
\bar V_{AN} = \bar V_{an}\left( \frac{\bar Z_{load}}{\bar Z_{line} + \bar Z_{load}}\right)

Solving for \bar Z_{line} yields:

\bar Z_{line} = \frac{\bar V_{an}\bar Z_{load}}{\bar V_{AN}}-\bar Z_{load} = \frac{(120&lt;0)(8+j4)}{(116.62&lt;-1.33)}-8+j4<br /> =0.134+0.306j \Omega

The book gets 0.5 + 0.5j \Omega
 
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I am not a power expert, but it looks right to me. You math is right too. Tell me what your prof says.
 
I'm guessing the difference has to do with the Y shape of the load and line impedances. When they say that the load impedance is 8+j4, is that each of the three Y impedances, or the parallel combination of them, or some other variation? I haven't worked with Y-delta stuff much, so I don't know what the convention is. But maybe that's why the book has a different answer.


EDIT -- Oops, I see now that this question was from last month. Sorry for the slow response, FrogPad. What turned out to be the error?
 
Well I actually forgot about this post. This was for a summer class I was taking, so things were flying by. I'm actually back home right now (I go to school in a different state), so I don't have anything from that class with me.

This post will either have to wait until I get back to school, or be lost forever.
 

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