Why Does My Calculation of <x^2> Yield a Negative Result?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the expectation value for a given wave function involving integrals and delta functions. The original poster expresses confusion over obtaining a negative result in their calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of differentiating the absolute value of k and its effect on the delta function. Questions arise about the validity of the differentiation process and the behavior of the sign function.

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Several participants are questioning the mathematical steps taken, particularly regarding the differentiation of |k| and its implications. There is an ongoing exploration of the properties of the delta function and its derivatives, with no clear consensus reached yet.

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Participants reference specific mathematical properties and theorems related to distributions and delta functions, indicating a focus on the theoretical underpinnings of the calculations involved.

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Homework Statement


Evaluate <x^2> for the wave function [itex]\psi(x)=\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dk exp(-|k|/k_0)exp(ikx)[/itex]
My calculation yields a negative answer and I can't find my error


Homework Equations


[tex]|\psi(x)|^2=\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dkexp(-|k|/k_0)\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dk'exp(-|k'|/k_0)exp(i(k-k')x)[/tex]
[tex]<x^2>=\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dx|\psi(x)|^2x^2[/tex]
[tex]\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dxx^2exp(i(k-k')x)=-\frac{d^2}{dk^2}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dxexp(i(k-k')x)=-2\pi\delta''(k-k')[/tex]



The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]<x^2>=\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dk'exp(-|k'|/k_0)\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dkexp(-|k|/k_0)\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dxx^2exp(i(k-k')x)[/tex]
[tex]<x^2>=\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dk'exp(-|k'|/k_0)\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dkexp(-|k|/k_0)(-2\pi\delta''(k-k'))[/tex]
[tex]<x^2>=-2\pi\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dk'exp(-|k'|/k_0) \frac{1}{k_0^2}exp(-|k'|/k_0)[/tex]
[tex]<x^2>=-\frac{2\pi}{k_0^2}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dk'exp(-2|k'|/k_0)=-\2\pi/k_0[/tex]
 
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You have |k|. How are you differentiating it when you move '' from delta?
 
arkajad said:
You have |k|. How are you differentiating it when you move '' from delta?

[tex]\frac{d}{dk}|k|=sg(k)[\tex]<br /> where sg(k) is 1 when k> and -1 when k<0 and in the second order differenciation sg(k) behaves as a constant. Of course it is not defferentiable at k=0.[/tex]
 
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Shouldn't second differentiation produce delta(k)?
 
I think the equation is
[tex]\int_{-infty}^{infty} f(x)\delta^{(n)}(x)=(-1)^nf^n(0)[/tex]
 
And sg'[k]=2delta[k].
 
I didn't know that. Where can I find a proof?
 
Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaviside_step_function"

The formal proof can be found in any text on distributions, for instance: http://www.mae.ufl.edu/~uhk/HEAVISIDE.pdf"

sg[x]=H[x]-H[-x]

therefore sg'[x]=2 delta(x).
 
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ok, thank you very much arkajad
 

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