Why Does My Current Density Calculation Fail Without Integration?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of current density and total current in a physics context, specifically addressing the necessity of integration in the calculation process.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between current density (J) and total current (I), questioning the validity of a direct calculation without integration. Some express confusion about why integration is necessary when previous exercises yielded correct results using simpler methods.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the need for integration in this specific problem, with some participants suggesting that the variation of current density with radius necessitates a more comprehensive approach. Guidance has been offered regarding the importance of integration to accurately calculate total current.

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Participants note that the current density varies with radius, which raises questions about the assumptions made in simpler calculations. There is a recognition that previous exercises may not have involved such variations, leading to different approaches.

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that is my solution:
I=J.A=J.∏r^2
Since r =a => J=0 => I=0 ≠ Io
I think this is wrong but i can't answer why this solution was wrong. Help me Please
 
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cuongbui1702 said:
2881_zps6cec47b2.png

that is my solution:
I=J.A=J.∏r^2
Since r =a => J=0 => I=0 ≠ Io
I think this is wrong but i can't answer why this solution was wrong. Help me Please

You need to write and solve the integral equation in order to show that the total current = Io...
 
berkeman said:
You need to write and solve the integral equation in order to show that the total current = Io...
I read solution, and they also used the integral equation. I do other exercise, i only took I=J.A, and i had a right result. But in this problem, i did not know use the integral equation, why i need to use that?
 
cuongbui1702 said:
I read solution, and they also used the integral equation. I do other exercise, i only took I=J.A, and i had a right result. But in this problem, i did not know use the integral equation, why i need to use that?

Because the current density varies with radius. When something varies like that, to calculate the total accurately, you need to use integration. Does that make sense?
 
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cuongbui1702 said:
I read solution, and they also used the integral equation. I do other exercise, i only took I=J.A, and i had a right result. But in this problem, i did not know use the integral equation, why i need to use that?
You need to use the integral because that is what you need to do to solve the problem. You are given the current density as a function of radius, and need to find the total current. When you have a problem like that, you integrate. That's what integration is, a kind of sum, and you here have to sum up a bunch of little bits of current into the total current.
 
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