Why Does My Graph Cross the Horizontal Asymptote y=1?

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The discussion revolves around finding the horizontal asymptote of the rational function (x^2+x-12)/(x^2-4). Participants are exploring the behavior of the graph in relation to the asymptote y=1, particularly why the graph appears to cross this line despite the established asymptotic behavior.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the degrees of the numerator and denominator, initially misidentifying them, and clarify that both are 2. They also explore the implications of this on the horizontal asymptote.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing clarification regarding the degrees of the polynomial and the coefficients of the leading terms. Some participants suggest that the graph can cross the horizontal asymptote for values of x that are not very large or very negative, indicating a productive exploration of the concept.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions and implications of horizontal asymptotes in the context of rational functions, particularly in relation to graphing behavior near the asymptote.

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Homework Statement


Find the horizontal asymptote(if there is one) using the rule for determining the horizontal asymptote of a rational function for (x^2+x-12)/ (x^2 -4)

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the degree of the numerator and denominator are both 2.

Y=(An)/(Bn)
Y=1/1
Y=1

When I do the math, the horizontal asymptote is the line y=1.

However when I graph this equation on a TI- 84 plus graphing calculator, if i use the trace, or table functions, the part of the graph that does not appear to cross the line y=1, does. Why is this?
 
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Immutef said:

Homework Statement


Find the horizontal asymptote(if there is one) using the rule for determining the horizontal asymptote of a rational function for (x^2+x-12)/ (x^2 -4)


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



the degree of the numerator and denominator are both 1.
No, the degree of the numerator and denominator is 2. How did you get 1?
Immutef said:
Y=(An)/(Bn)
Y=1/1
Y=1

When I do the math, the horizontal asymptote is the line y=1.

However when I graph this equation on a TI- 84 plus graphing calculator, if i use the trace, or table functions, the part of the graph that does not appear to cross the line y=1, does. Why is this?
The whole idea about a horizontal asymptote is to describe behavior of the function for very large x or very negative x. For very large (or very negative) values, the graph of the function won't cross the asymptote. For values of x that are relatively close to 0, the graph can cross the asymptote.
 
Mark44 said:
No, the degree of the numerator and denominator is 2. How did you get 1?
The whole idea about a horizontal asymptote is to describe behavior of the function for very large x or very negative x. For very large (or very negative) values, the graph of the function won't cross the asymptote. For values of x that are relatively close to 0, the graph can cross the asymptote.

Sorry, yes the degree is 2, I typed the wrong number. Thank you for the quick response.

* I will correct that in the original posting, as it was a repeated typo
 
Now this part is wrong -
Immutef said:
Y=(An)/(Bn)
Y=2/2
Y=1

There are two things going on here: (1) the degrees of numerator and denominator, (2) the coefficients of the leading terms in the numerator and denominator.

In a rational function, when deg(numerator) = deg(denominator), the equation of the horizontal asymptote is y = an/bn. Here, an is the coefficient of the highest degree term in the numerator, and bn is the coefficient of the highest degree term in the denominator.

For your problem an = bn = 1.
 

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