Why Does Space/Time Not Cause Friction?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the concept of whether space/time could cause friction for moving celestial bodies, considering both theoretical implications and potential observational evidence. It touches on ideas related to gravitational radiation and the interaction of matter with vacuum conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why space/time does not cause friction, suggesting that moving celestial bodies might experience an effect similar to moving through a fluid.
  • Another participant argues that the existence of such a 'friction' effect is not determined and may be too small to detect with current instruments, potentially being on the order of the Planck constant.
  • A mention of gravitational radiation is made, noting that it can dampen motion, although this effect is very small and has only been detected in specific extreme conditions, such as orbiting neutron stars.
  • One participant reflects on the intuitive nature of the question and connects it to the principles of relativity, indicating that the concepts of "at rest" and "moving" are not distinct in a fundamental sense.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence and detectability of friction in space/time, with no consensus reached on the matter. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these ideas.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of friction and the conditions under which it might be observed, as well as the limitations of current experimental capabilities to detect such effects.

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I started general last year and I was wondering why space/time does not cause fricton. Since it has such an effect on large bodies such as our solar system that occupy space in it and with the cassamir effect we know a vacuum can interact with matter under the right conditions. It just seems intuitive that a planet or a star moving through space would be affected as if it were moving through a fluid in some tiny way.
 
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Whether or not this 'friction' effect exists is not determined, so it is a bit soon to be asking why. There is no experimental or astronomical evidence for this, so if it exists it is too small for our current instruments to detect. If it is of the order of the Planck constant, it will be undetectable for a long time to come.

In some circumstances, gravitational radiation can be emitted which will damp motion. This effect is very small, even in extreme conditions, but has been detected ( with a high probability) in mutually orbiting of neutron stars, which slow down as energy is radiated away.
 
Interesting question :)
 
B.L.E.V.E. said:
It just seems intuitive that a planet or a star moving through space would be affected as if it were moving through a fluid in some tiny way.
You're proposing something that a star could use to tell whether or not it is moving. A friction force tends to slow a moving object down until it comes to rest, but a basic principle of relativity is that "at rest" and "moving" are one and the same.
 

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