Why Does Sum of Infinity Equal Infinity?

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical concept of summing an infinite series, specifically the sum of a constant over all integers, expressed as n=-∞1. Participants explore the reasoning behind why this sum equals infinity and the implications of moving constants outside the summation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that n=-∞1 equals infinity but struggles to understand the reasoning behind it.
  • Another participant challenges this reasoning, stating that the sum is effectively 1 + 1 + 1 + ..., emphasizing that moving the constant outside does not change the nature of the sum.
  • A different participant suggests that the summation could be seen as vanishing if there is no argument inside, drawing a parallel between summation and integration.
  • One participant references a related post for further clarification on the same problem, indicating ongoing confusion about the logic involved.
  • A participant reiterates their initial confusion, attempting to illustrate their reasoning by manipulating the sum formally, leading to the conclusion that the sum diverges in a non-rigorous manner.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the infinite sum, with no consensus reached on the underlying reasoning or the validity of the arguments presented.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the reasoning presented, particularly regarding the manipulation of infinite sums and the assumptions made about moving constants outside the summation. The discussion reflects a lack of rigorous treatment of the mathematical principles involved.

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I know that

[tex] \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty{1} = \infty [/tex]

But I don't understand why.

It seems to me that since the constant inside the summation is not dependent upon n it can be moved outside the summation. Then there is nothing to sum. It seems to me that

[tex] \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty{1} [/tex]

should equal 1.

What am I missing?
 
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Your logic is incorrect. The sum is 1+1+1+1+... no matter how you slice it.

You can take the 1 outside the sum, but you still have 1 inside, not 0. 1x0=0, not =1.
 
I thought the summation just vanished if there was no "argument" inside it.

That makes a lot more sense of why the summation is a discrete analogue of an integral.

Thank you for the help.
 
SpaceDomain said:
I know that

[tex] \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty{1} = \infty [/tex]

But I don't understand why.

It seems to me that since the constant inside the summation is not dependent upon n it can be moved outside the summation. Then there is nothing to sum.

You can change
[tex]\sum_{n=1}^N1[/tex]
to
[tex](N\cdot1)+\sum_{n=1}^N0=N[/tex]
by 'pulling out the 1'. In your infinite sum, proceeding formally, this would give you
[tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty1[/tex]
to
[tex](\infty\cdot1)+\sum_{n=1}^\infty0=\infty[/tex]
which shows (in a non-rigorous way) that the sum diverges.
 

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