Why does the acceleration of a pendulum depend on Rθ and not x?

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of a pendulum, specifically focusing on the relationship between the acceleration expressed in terms of angular displacement (Rθ) and its comparison to Cartesian coordinates (x). Participants are exploring the implications of using angular measurements in the context of pendulum motion.

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  • Participants are questioning the equivalence of the characteristic length scales in angular and Cartesian coordinates. There is a discussion about the dimensional consistency of Rθ and x, as well as the relationship between differentials dx and dθ.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants seeking to clarify the definitions and relationships between the variables involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the dimensional analysis of Rθ, but there is no explicit consensus on the assumptions being made about the relationship between the different coordinate systems.

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There is a mention of potential ambiguity regarding the term "characteristic length scale" and how it applies to the pendulum's motion. Participants are also considering the implications of changing the length of the pendulum (R) on the relationship between angular and linear displacements.

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Okay I hope I can write this so it makes sense what I am thinking.
For a pendulum you have:

Fres = -mgsinθ
And Fres points along the circumference:
So:
mRθ'' = -mgsinθ

I wonna discuss this property that you can just express the acceleration as Rθ''. In a cartesian coordinate frame your acceleration would depend on the characteristic length scale of x. How do you know that the characteristic length scale of Rθ is the same as x? I know it sounds weird, but I hope you understand what I am going at.
 
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I'm not sure what you mean by "characteristic length scale" but I suspect it has to do either with the units of measurement or a specific length in the problem.

The angle, [itex]\theta[/itex] is "dimensionless" so that "[itex]R\theta[/itex]" has the same units as R. Whatever "length scale" you are using for R also applies to [itex]R\theta[/itex].
 


are you asking if X and Y are measured in meters then would r*theta be measured in meters?
 


no rather something like this: If we imagine that at some point the x-axis of our coordinate system tangential to the arc then the pendulum will move a distance dx measured in cartesian coordinates. How can we know that dx=rdθ, I mean what is it that says that these differentials are comparable? After all what if we made r bigger?
 

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