Why does the integral of the Yukawa potential converge for q/alpha >= 1?

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The discussion centers around the convergence of the integral of the Yukawa potential, specifically the integral of the form \(\int_0^\infty dx\;e^{-\alpha x}\sin{q x}\) where \(q\) and \(\alpha\) are positive parameters. Participants explore the conditions under which this integral converges, particularly focusing on the case when \(q/\alpha \geq 1\), and discuss various methods of evaluating the integral.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a solution involving a Taylor series expansion of the sine function and differentiating with respect to \(\alpha\), leading to a geometric series that converges for \(q/\alpha < 1\).
  • Another participant suggests an alternative approach using the exponential form of the sine function, which simplifies the integral into a sum of two easier integrals.
  • A later reply discusses the concept of analytic continuation, noting that while the geometric series converges only for \(|z| < 1\), the corresponding function can still be valid for a larger domain due to the presence of poles.
  • Participants express curiosity about the original participant's complex solution and seek clarification on where it may have gone wrong.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the original participant's solution, as they question its validity for \(q/\alpha \geq 1\). Multiple approaches are presented, and while some participants agree on the validity of the integral for real \(q\) and \(\text{Re} \; \alpha > 0\), the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of the original method.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the convergence of the geometric series and the conditions under which the integral converges, but does not resolve the mathematical steps or assumptions involved in the original solution.

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While preparing for an exam I came across an integral of the form

\int_0^\infty dx\;e^{-\alpha x}\sin{q x}

with q,\alpha&gt;0.

My question will be regarding my solution to the integral which I present as follows:

I expand the sine function as a Taylor series and differentiate with respect to alpha to yield

\begin{align}e^{-\alpha x}\sin{q x} &amp;= \sum_{n=0}^\infty (-1)^n\dfrac{q^{2n+1}}{(2n+1)!}x^{2n+1}e^{-\alpha x} \\<br /> &amp;= \sum_n (-1)^{n+1}\dfrac{q^{2n+1}}{(2n+1)!}\dfrac{d^{2n+1}}{d\alpha^{2n+1}}e^{-\alpha x}\end{align}

After integrating with respect to x and differentiating with respect to alpha I arrive at

\int_0^\infty dx\;e^{-\alpha x}\sin{q x}=\dfrac{q}{\alpha^2}\sum_n \left(i\dfrac{q}{\alpha}\right)^{2n}.

Here comes the troubling part. For q/\alpha&lt;1 this geometric series converges nicely to

\dfrac{q}{q^2+\alpha^2}.

However, Mathematica tells me that the integral, unlike my geometric series above, will still converge for q/\alpha\geq 1.

I guess my question is a) Where have I gone wrong in my solution such that it is only valid for the case q/\alpha&lt;1? b) Is there a more straightforward way of performing this integral?

Thanks in advance for any insight you all may offer.

I realize this is more of a math question, but it came up while performing the Fourier transform of the Yukawa potential and I thought that the physics community here would be well acquainted with this integral.

[Edit]: I want to make clear that this is not a homework problem. I was simply curious if I could perform the integral by hand.
 
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As a simpler route, I think you can just write ##\sin(qx) = [e^{iqx} - e^{-iqx}]/(2i)##, which turns the integral into a sum of two easy integrals of exponentials.
 
The_Duck said:
As a simpler route, I think you can just write ##\sin(qx) = [e^{iqx} - e^{-iqx}]/(2i)##, which turns the integral into a sum of two easy integrals of exponentials.

Oh wow... I was originally trying to do just that except that I was thinking I would use the residue theorem... which makes no sense for this problem. Wow that is easy. Thanks, The_Duck.

However, I am still curious as to where my overly-complicated solution goes wrong. Any thoughts?
 
That's a trick any physicist has learn at a point. You have a series, converging for some values, and then after summing you do an analytic continuation. Most prominent examples is renormalization theory in quantum field theory: You evaluate an integral in d dimensions and analytically continuate to the physical value d=4 after subtracting divergent terms of the type 1/(d-4) (dimensional regularization) and so on.

You example is a nice example. Of course the geometric series converges only for |z|&lt;1. For these values you have
\sum_{k=0}^{\infty} z^k=\frac{1}{1-z}.
This shows, why the series diverges for |z|&gt;1: The analytic function defined by the series only for |z|&lt;1 has a pole at z=1, and a well-known theorem from complex function theory tells you that the Taylor series around a point z_0 has the radius of divergence determined by the largest disk not containing any singularities of the corresponding function. Here z_0=0 and the closest (and in this case only) singularity is at z=1.

The function as an analytic (meromorphic) function is uniquely defined on the entire complex plane except at the pole z=1. Thus the function is valid on this much larger domain than the convergence region of the original power series tells you.

The integral is obviously convergent for any real q for \text{Re} \; \alpha&gt;0.
 
Thank you vanhees71 for your response. I believe I understand the main idea of what you are saying and will do some playing around with this idea.
 

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