Why does the Kronecker delta interchange with itself when j equals l?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the Kronecker delta, particularly when indices j and l are equal. When j equals l, the expression can be simplified to show that the Kronecker delta functions imply specific relationships between indices, leading to the conclusion that certain combinations yield non-zero results only under specific conditions. The participants clarify that while the Kronecker delta behaves like a symmetric unit matrix, it does not imply summation in all cases, particularly when indices are not repeated. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding notation and the implications of dummy variables in mathematical expressions. Overall, the key takeaway is that careful attention to index notation and the context of summation is crucial in manipulating these expressions correctly.
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quietrain said:
yes that's all the question wants. use quotient law to show that matrix is a 2nd order tensor.
I don't see how the quotient law can have anything to do with this.

quietrain said:
so how do i proceed? is diagonalizing it the right way?
I have no idea. What I do know is that it's pointless to do that unless you have a way to proceed once you have found the diagonal matrix.

quietrain said:
i think my prof also said that by the quotient law, if the matrix

(A) (scalar) = invariant, it shows that A is tensor. or something along the lines of these.
If A times a scalar is an invariant, then A is obviously invariant too. So I'm pretty sure that's not what your professor told you.

When you have a statement that you think might be useful, that may or may not be what you have been told by a professor or seen in a book, you should at least think about what it would mean if the statement is true. If you had done this here, it would have saved us both some time.

quietrain said:
anyway, i still don't really have any idea how to solve this quesiton
I don't either, and to be honest, I still doubt that you have stated the problem correctly.

Do you have any solved examples from your book or your lecture notes that you can show me? This could at least give us some idea about how the quotient law is relevant.
 
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hmm its ok then , that's all the question says .

thanks for everything though, i finally understood what those indexes meant
 

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