Why does the Rankine cycle require the condensation of water before reheating?

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The discussion revolves around the Rankine cycle, specifically addressing the necessity of condensing water before reheating it in a steam power plant. Participants explore the implications of this process on efficiency and the operational characteristics of pumps within the system.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the condensation stage is necessary, suggesting that water at a higher temperature could be fed directly to the boiler, potentially requiring less work to heat.
  • Another participant explains that the condenser's role is to convert steam back into liquid water, which is more efficient to pump than steam.
  • A further contribution emphasizes that pumps operate better with either fully liquid or fully gaseous fluids, arguing that incomplete condensation could lead to cavitation, damaging the pump.
  • There is a reiteration of the point that pumping steam requires more power than the energy saved by the condenser and boiler, raising questions about the overall efficiency of the process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and efficiency of the condensation process, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the efficiency of pumping liquids versus gases and the operational limits of pumps are discussed, but these remain unresolved within the conversation.

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In a Rankine cycle such as a steam power plant, why does the liquid (water) have be condensed before being reheated first? Isn't the Q just extracted during the condensation stage, wasted into a nearby reservoir, and then re-added in the boiler? Could this water not be fed straight to the boiler, and because it is at a higher temperature than fully condensed water, would require less W to heat it?
 
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When the working fluid (water, or steam more precisely) exits the turbine, it is still in a gaseous state. The function of the condenser is to perform the phase change of the steam back into liquid water. Liquid water takes less power to pump back into the boiler than steam does.
 
What SteamKing said seems like a good answer, I'd just like to add one thing: Pumps like to work in either a fully liquid or fully gaseous regime. This is why the condenser completely condenses the working fluid. If the working fluid were to have some gaseous component to it, you run the risk of cavitation occurring in your pump, which will kill the pump rather quickly.
 
SteamKing said:
When the working fluid (water, or steam more precisely) exits the turbine, it is still in a gaseous state. The function of the condenser is to perform the phase change of the steam back into liquid water. Liquid water takes less power to pump back into the boiler than steam does.
Thanks, so in this case, the pumping would require more power than the amount of power the condenser and boiler would save?
njardus said:
What SteamKing said seems like a good answer, I'd just like to add one thing: Pumps like to work in either a fully liquid or fully gaseous regime. This is why the condenser completely condenses the working fluid. If the working fluid were to have some gaseous component to it, you run the risk of cavitation occurring in your pump, which will kill the pump rather quickly.
Thanks for the reply!
 

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