Why Does the Series Sum of (ln n)/n Exceed Sum of 1/n?

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The discussion revolves around the comparison of two series: the sum of (ln n)/n and the sum of 1/n. Participants are exploring the conditions under which one series may exceed the other, particularly focusing on the behavior of the natural logarithm function.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are examining the validity of using the comparison test for series convergence, questioning the implications of the logarithmic function's behavior at specific values, and discussing the significance of terms in infinite series.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the nature of the logarithmic function and its comparison to constant values. Some guidance has been offered regarding the manipulation of series terms, but no consensus has been reached on the overall comparison of the two series.

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There are discussions about the limitations of the logarithmic function and the implications of ignoring finite terms in the context of infinite series. Participants are also considering the nuances of the term "almost" in relation to the behavior of ln n.

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[tex] \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{\ln n}{n}> \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n}[/tex]

ln is not always bigger then 1
so when i am doing the comparing test
i can't use that
because ln 1 =0

??
 
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ln n > 1 for almost every positive number n. Compare the graphs of y = ln x and y = 1 and you'll see that what I'm saying is true.
 
you said yourself "almost" not absolutely
 
Remember that that sum is really just a whole list of terms, all added up. So you can split the sum into two sums, or write out some of the terms explicitly if you want. Just to give an example:

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} n^2 e^{-n} = \left(\sum_{n=0}^{6} n^2 e^{-n}\right) + \left(\sum_{n=7}^{\infty} n^2 e^{-n}\right) = 0^2 e^{-0} + 1^2 e^{-1} + 2^2 e^{-2} + \sum_{n=3}^{\infty} n^2 e^{-n}[/tex]

You can do something like this for one or both of the sums in your expression, and it should help.
 
transgalactic said:
you said yourself "almost" not absolutely
In an infinite series, you can always ignore a finite number of terms without affecting whether the series converges or diverges.
 

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