Why Does the Tension Calculation for Charged Hanging Balls Show Incorrect?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of tension in massless threads supporting charged balls. The original poster describes a scenario involving two insulated balls with a total charge, questioning their tension calculation before the charge is applied.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate tension using the formula T = -m*g, expressing confusion over the correctness of their result. Some participants question the sign convention used in the calculations, while others suggest considering additional forces, such as the Coulombic force, that may affect the tension.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the tension calculation and the forces involved. There is no explicit consensus, but various perspectives on the problem are being shared.

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Participants note the mass of the balls as 0.1 g, which may be a source of confusion in the calculations. The original poster's frustration with the course site feedback indicates potential misunderstandings in the problem setup or calculations.

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Two insulated balls of mass 0.1 g hang from the same support point by massless insulating threads of length l (as shown in the diagram below.) A total positive charge of 5.70 x 10-07 C is added to the system. Half this charge is taken up by each ball, distributed uniformly, and the balls spread apart to a new equilibrium position.
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Assuming that the balls hang essentially vertical before the charge is added, what is the tension in each thread before the charge is added?




T=-m*g



I believe that since the strings are mass less and said to be essentially vertical, then the only equation i should need is Tension=-mass*gravity to get the force of tension on each string. so I have T=-(.1 g)(-9.8 m/s2)=.98 g*m/s2=.98 N but when I enter it onto my course site it tells me I am incorrect. Am i being oblivious to something?
 
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I notice that you multiply 2 negatives in the last line, should not one of these be +ve?
 
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arithmetix said:
I notice that you multiply 2 negatives in the last line, should not one of these be +ve?

In my problem i am orienting the gravity to go in a negative direction, thus force on the ball is F=(.1 g)(-9,8 m/s2)=-.98 N, however, the tension in the rope acting on the ball is in the opposite direction (if i am wrong, please explain), so the Tension will be a positive value.

btw. I tried putting in -.98 N as well on the site and it told me i was incorrect. This is driving me crazy, it seems so simple!
 
Are you including the Coulombic force?
 
IllTry said:
btw. I tried putting in -.98 N as well on the site and it told me i was incorrect. This is driving me crazy, it seems so simple!

The balls are 0.1 g, not 0.1 kg
 

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