Why does this equation not give me the ionization energy of lithium?

In summary, the conversation discusses the limitations of the Bohr model in calculating the first ionization energy for elements other than hydrogen. The equation used in the conversation is only applicable for hydrogen-like ions with one electron. The mention of the Rydberg atom leads to the conclusion that there is no specific equation to calculate the first ionization energy for other elements, and it would require computer calculations or measuring the energy directly.
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Homework Statement
i want to find the first ionization energy for lithium using Bohr formula but something seems wrong !
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Bohr energy equation
i am trying to calculate the first ionization energy for lithium with this equation but it seems to work only with hydrogen ?
i put nf = infinity and ni =2 ,and z = 3 for lithium and it gives about 30 ev not 5.39172 ev which is the value for lithium :

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i will appreciate any help in this
 
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There are some limitations to the Bohr model, do you know them?
 
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Borek said:
There are some limitations to the Bohr model, do you know them?
i know that it failed to describe the experimental results for multi electron atoms :smile: ,
so what equation is being used for finding the ionization energy ?
because every where i look online it seems that people uses that equation ?!
 
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Look up "Rydberg atom". Your equation is for a hydrogen-like ion, with 1 electron, i.e. Li2+.
 
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mjc123 said:
Look up "Rydberg atom". Your equation is for a hydrogen-like ion, with 1 electron, i.e. Li2+.
thanks i got it now , so i am assuming that there is no equation that could calculate the first ionization energy of a specific element except hydrogen ?!
or even approximately at least ?
 
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Not really, without computer number-crunching. Practically, I think it would work the other way round - measure the ionisation energy, calculate the quantum defect, compare periodic trends and see what that tells you about the orbitals.
 

Related to Why does this equation not give me the ionization energy of lithium?

1. Why is the equation for calculating ionization energy not accurate for lithium?

The equation for ionization energy is based on theoretical assumptions and does not account for all factors such as atomic structure and electron-electron interactions. Therefore, it may not accurately predict the ionization energy of lithium.

2. What factors contribute to the inaccuracy of the equation for determining lithium's ionization energy?

The inaccuracy of the equation for ionization energy calculation can be attributed to the complexity of the lithium atom and its unique electron configuration. Other factors such as the shielding effect of inner electrons and the presence of multiple isotopes also play a role.

3. Can the equation for ionization energy be modified to accurately calculate the ionization energy of lithium?

While the equation can be modified to include more factors, it may still not accurately predict the ionization energy of lithium due to the inherent complexity of the atom. Experimental methods, such as spectroscopy, are more reliable for determining ionization energy.

4. Is there a more accurate method for determining the ionization energy of lithium?

Yes, experimental methods such as photoelectron spectroscopy or mass spectrometry are commonly used to determine the ionization energy of elements like lithium. These methods take into account all the factors that influence ionization energy and provide more accurate results.

5. Why is knowing the ionization energy of lithium important?

The ionization energy of an element is a fundamental property that can provide valuable information about the atom's electronic structure and reactivity. It is also useful in understanding the behavior of lithium in chemical reactions and its applications in various industries, such as batteries and pharmaceuticals.

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