Why does this kinematics problem seem impossible.HELP

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving a man's jump, where specific parameters such as mass, lengths, and heights are provided. Participants are tasked with determining the downward force exerted during a jump phase and whether the man can clear a barrier of a certain height.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of forces and accelerations, with one noting a specific force value of 1715N. Questions arise regarding the time needed to reach the maximum height and whether the acceleration is sufficient for the jump. There is also a query about the conservation of momentum during the jump phases.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider gravitational effects on acceleration. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the jump's feasibility and the conservation of momentum.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the number of unknowns in the problem and the implications of gravity on their calculations. There is a reference to homework constraints and the need to state physical laws used in their reasoning.

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why does this kinematics problem seem impossible.HELP!

Homework Statement



If the man's mass is 70 kg, if L is 0.4 m h is 0.6 m, what is the downwards force (assumed constant) exerted by his feet during the phase A to B? State any physical law or principle you use in obtaining your answer.

vi) For a man whose parameters are given in part (v), would it be possible to jump over a barrier 0.8 m high starting the jump as shown from A to B? Explain your answer.

heres a link to the problem http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/firstyear/pdf%20files/1131T12008.pdf

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The Attempt at a Solution



I am really struggling with part vi)

the answer for part v) is 1715N

now i know the highest point reached is when vf=0

but I am having a hard time figuring out the time for this.

All I know is that 1716=ma

so a = 24.5 m/s

and I need to see if this acceleration is large enough for a man of mass 70kg can reach a height h=0.8

are there to many unknowns in this problem or is it just me ??

I have tried so many different ways but I keep getting stuck. please help!

also part vii)During which (if any) phases of the jump described in part (vi) is the momentum of the man conserved? Explain your answer briefly.

would it be none; since gravity is always acting on the system.??
 
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charmedbeauty said:

Homework Statement



If the man's mass is 70 kg, if L is 0.4 m h is 0.6 m, what is the downwards force (assumed constant) exerted by his feet during the phase A to B? State any physical law or principle you use in obtaining your answer.

vi) For a man whose parameters are given in part (v), would it be possible to jump over a barrier 0.8 m high starting the jump as shown from A to B? Explain your answer.

heres a link to the problem http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/firstyear/pdf%20files/1131T12008.pdf

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



I am really struggling with part vi)

the answer for part v) is 1715N

now i know the highest point reached is when vf=0

but I am having a hard time figuring out the time for this.

All I know is that 1716=ma

so a = 24.5 m/s

and I need to see if this acceleration is large enough for a man of mass 70kg can reach a height h=0.8

are there to many unknowns in this problem or is it just me ??

I have tried so many different ways but I keep getting stuck. please help!

also part vii)During which (if any) phases of the jump described in part (vi) is the momentum of the man conserved? Explain your answer briefly.

would it be none; since gravity is always acting on the system.??
What are your answers to parts ii & iii, including how you arrived at them?

How did you arrive at your answer to part iv ?
 
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Ditto SammyS' post.
 


SammyS said:
What are your answers to parts ii & iii, including how you arrived at them?

How did you arrive at your answer to part iv ?

ohhh now I see I can use this for vo...

by the way for vicm I did

Ui+Ki=Ui+Ki

and solved for vcm=√(2gh)

Thanks so much I never thought to look at my previous answers and had been stuck for ages. Thanks.
 


SammyS said:
What are your answers to parts ii & iii, including how you arrived at them?

How did you arrive at your answer to part iv ?

Does this seem right now...

vf=\sqrt{2gh}+24.5t
vf=0

t=\sqrt{2gh}/24.5

t=0.14

xy= \sqrt{2gh}(0.14)+\frac{1}{2}(24.5)(0.14)^{2}

xy= 0.72

Therefore no -----> 0.72<0.80

Does this seem right?
 
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The acceleration you have for part iii is wrong.

The force looks right, but that's not the net force exerted upon the CoM .
 


SammyS said:
The acceleration you have for part iii is wrong.

The force looks right, but that's not the net force exerted upon the CoM .

ok I have to subtract the acceleration due to gravity so the right acceleration should be 14.7m/s2??
 

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