Why Does This Summation Equality Hold?

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The discussion revolves around a summation equality involving factorials and powers of 5, specifically the relationship between two infinite series. Participants are examining the validity of the equality and the implications of the terms involved.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning how the equality is derived and what the first term in the series represents. There is also discussion about the convergence of the series and the definitions of the terms involved.

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Some participants express understanding of the equality after clarification, while others continue to explore the implications of the terms and the structure of the summation. There is a mix of agreement and further questioning regarding the definitions and assumptions at play.

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There is a focus on the manipulation of summation indices and the definitions of terms like 5^0 and 0!. Participants are also considering the implications of the series' convergence in relation to the equality.

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Homework Statement


##\sum\limits_{n=1}^ \infty \frac{5^{n}}{n!} = \sum\limits_{n=0}^ \infty \frac{5^{n}}{n!} -1##


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How is this equality true? How does one get from the first to the second equation?
 
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[tex](a_1 + a_2 + a_3 ... ) = (a_0 + a_1 + a_2 + a_3 + ...) - a_0[/tex]
 
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What is the first term in [tex]\sum_0^\infty \frac{5^n}{n!}[/tex] ?
 
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Are you sure that the sum on the RHS is not between 2 and infinity?
 
Jilang said:
Are you sure that the sum on the RHS is not between 2 and infinity?

I'm certain.
 
Thanks for the help. I get it now.
 
Yes I get it too now! It's a 5 on the RHS not a 1, LOL!
 
Jilang said:
Yes I get it too now! It's a 5 on the RHS not a 1, LOL!

What do you mean? 5^0 = 1, 0! = 1.
 
You need both to be true.
 
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Jilang said:
You need both to be true.

What? The equality in the OP is entirely correct. It doesn't need to be a 5 or anything.
 
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Jilang said:
Yes I get it too now! It's a 5 on the RHS not a 1, LOL!
What's the first term in the series on the right side? Hint: It's NOT 5.
Jilang said:
You need both to be true.
?
 
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Jilang said:
Are you sure that the sum on the RHS is not between 2 and infinity?
You're missing the point of this problem, which is strictly about manipulating the indexes of a summation. It's not about whether the series converges or not.
 
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micromass said:
What? The equality in the OP is entirely correct. It doesn't need to be a 5 or anything.

Yes and you need that 5^0=1 and 0!=1.
 
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micromass said:
What? The equality in the OP is entirely correct. It doesn't need to be a 5 or anything.

Jilang said:
Yes and you need that 5^0=1 and 0!=1.
These are true by definition. It wasn't clear from your previous comment about 5 on the right side, that you understood that both 5^0 and 0! were equal to 1.
 
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Thanks for checking, I'm fine with it now though the 0! had me stumped for a while!
 

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