Why does water affect friction differently in different situations?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of water on friction in various contexts, particularly focusing on how water can both reduce and increase friction depending on the situation. Participants explore this phenomenon in relation to driving on wet roads and the interaction of water with surfaces, such as a finger and a book page.

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Main Points Raised

  • Duong expresses confusion about how water can both reduce and increase friction in different scenarios, such as slippery roads after rain and flooded roads.
  • One participant compares the situation to a paradox, explaining that on a slippery road, water creates a film that reduces friction, while on a flooded road, the water creates drag as it must be displaced.
  • Duong seeks further clarification on how water affects the interaction between a car's tires and the road surface.
  • Another participant references adhesive forces to explain why a wet finger can increase friction when turning a page in a book.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are differing interpretations of how water interacts with friction in various contexts. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the underlying mechanisms at play.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference external sources for further information on adhesion, lubrication, and drag, indicating that the discussion may involve complex physical principles that are not fully addressed within the thread.

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Hello everyone!
I am Duong (Dương), I am from Vietnam, 16 years old. So my English grammar isnot good, i am sorry!
I have some problems about friction, I can't understand.
First, when the road is slippery after the rain, the car or orther verhicles (in the road) are very difficult to drive. This means "water reduces friction between the hire with the road."
Second, when the road is flooded, the car is difficult to drive, too. this means "water increases friction"
Beside, we use small water in the finger to turn the page of the book, it means that water increases friction, too
So, it is ridiculous, not only reducing friction, but also increase friction, so why?i need explaining
Thank you very much! Have a nice day!
 
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ntd252 said:
So, it is ridiculous, not only reducing friction, but also increase friction, so why?
Without any water you will die of thirst, but with too much water you will drown. Is this also a ridiculous paradox to you, that you cannot understand?

The road is slippery after the rain, because the wheels glide on a water film. On a flooded road the water has to be moved out of the way, so it creates drag. The book page sticks to the wet finger due to adhesive forces.
 
I know. Read again my post. The book page sticks to the wet finger, because of friction is increased. I want to understand that, why can water reduce friction and increase friction?how does water affect surface between road and car's tire?
 
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