Why doesn't a body accelerate upward when a force is applied?

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The discussion revolves around the question of why a body does not continue to accelerate upward after a force is applied to throw it upward. Participants explore concepts related to forces, acceleration, and the effects of gravity on motion, touching on both theoretical and practical aspects of projectile motion.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that gravity continuously slows down the body after it is released, questioning why it does not accelerate upward despite the initial force applied.
  • Another participant clarifies that the upward force must have ended for the downward acceleration to begin, emphasizing the importance of the timing of the forces involved.
  • A participant introduces the concept of a vertical cannon, explaining that the force applied to the projectile only occurs while it is inside the barrel, after which it moves with the kinetic energy gained.
  • Some participants note that without gravity, a body would continue to move upward indefinitely at a constant velocity once released.
  • One participant argues that there is no upward force or acceleration after the initial force ends, asserting that only downward forces and accelerations are present.
  • Another participant reiterates the application of Newton's laws, stating that once the projectile is released, it no longer experiences an upward force, leading to negative acceleration due to gravity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of forces acting on the body after it is released. While some agree on the role of gravity and the cessation of upward force, others contest the existence of any upward acceleration post-release, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference Newton's laws of motion and the effects of forces on acceleration, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the conditions under which these laws apply, particularly in the context of gravity and external forces.

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When we apply a force to throw a body upward why doesn’t it accelerate in upward direction. I think the answer is continuous force of gravity slowing it down. So it is de accelerating from the moment it’s released. But recently we have applied a force so it should accelerate ?
 
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The key is in your word "recently." That means the upward force was previously applied, but has now ended and when it ends, that when the downward acceleration begins.
 
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Dr.D said:
when it ends,
What ends ?
 
When the net upward force ends, the upward acceleration ends. The upward motion ceases when the upward velocity goes to zero.
 
A vertical cannon applies force to a projectile while it is inside the barrel.
The velocity of the projectile goes from zero to a maximum value when leaving the barrel.
That is the only time during which the expanding gases of the propellant transfer energy to the projectile.

Beyond that point or moment, the projectile flies uniquely with the kinetic energy that it has gained from the cannon.
That energy can be degraded by gravity, air drag and impact.

The mass of the projectile needs a constantly applied force in order to increase or decrease its velocity.

That is why rockets and airplanes and helicopters keep burning fuel in engines that push their masses, either to accelerate them or to keep them flying at constant speeds.
 
Lnewqban said:
A vertical cannon applies force to a projectile while it is inside the barrel.
The velocity of the projectile goes from zero to a maximum value when leaving the barrel.
That is the only time during which the expanding gases of the propellant transfer energy to the projectile.

Beyond that point or moment, the projectile flies uniquely with the kinetic energy that it has gained from the cannon.
That energy can be degraded by gravity, air drag and impact.

The mass of the projectile needs a constantly applied force in order to increase or decrease its velocity.

That is why rockets and airplanes and helicopters keep burning fuel in engines that push their masses, either to accelerate them or to keep them flying at constant speeds.
Got it! The body with initial acceleration moves up with constant velocity when released but soon it experiences de acceleration and slows down.
So if there were no gravity the body would move forever with constant velocity.
 
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Dr.D said:
When the net upward force ends, the upward acceleration ends. The upward motion ceases when the upward velocity goes to zero.
I don’t think there is any upward force and acceleration. Only downward force and acceleration.
 
rudransh verma said:
Got it! The body with initial acceleration moves up with constant velocity when released but soon it experiences de acceleration and slows down.
So if there were no gravity the body would move forever with constant velocity.
You got it!
While inside the gun, the projectile complies with the Newton's second law: there is a mass and a net upwards force (gases pressure acting up and weight acting down); therefore, it must be an acceleration (the projectile is gaining momentum).

In the first law, an object will not change its motion unless a force acts on it.
Once the projectile is released into an ideal world with no gravity, the mass remains, but the force disappears; threfore, nothing is accelerating the projectile, which keeps flying at constant velocity.

In the real world, the downwards force of weight (mg) persists after the upwards force of the expanding gases ceases beyond the muzzle; therefore, the projectile complies again with the second law and shows a negative acceleration coming to a stop at certain height, just to free fall down.
 

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