Why don't I get the correct answer when I set these two equations =

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The discussion revolves around the application of an integral formula from Apostol, specifically regarding the evaluation of the integral $$\int_0^n [t]^{2} dt$$ and its implications when setting it equal to a quadratic expression. The subject area includes calculus and the properties of integrals, particularly in relation to natural numbers and the floor function.

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  • Participants explore the validity of setting two equations equal and question the assumptions regarding the variable ##x## being a natural number. There is discussion about breaking up the integral into intervals and evaluating parts separately, as well as concerns about the complexity of the problem.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different approaches and questioning assumptions. Some guidance has been provided regarding breaking the integral into manageable parts, though there is no explicit consensus on a single method or solution.

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There is a noted distinction between the conditions under which Apostol's formula holds true and the assumptions made about the variable ##x##. Participants express uncertainty about the necessity of case work and the potential for "plug and chug" methods.

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Homework Statement
Find all x>0 for which $$\int_0^x [t]^{2} dt = 2(x-1) $$
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The notation [x] denotes the greatest integer less than or equal to x
In the question above it, the author (Apostol) states: $$\int_0^n [t]^{2} dt = \frac{n(n-1)(2n-1)}{6}$$

Why can't I set the two equations = and get the result?

2(x-1) = x(x-1)(2x-1)/6 => 12 = 2x^2 - x => 0 = x^2-(x/2) -6

using quadratic equation I get the wrong answer
 
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Apostol's formula is true when ##n## is a natural number. You aren't assuming that ##x## is a natural number, though.
 
Infrared said:
Apostol's formula is true when ##n## is a natural number. You aren't assuming that ##x## is a natural number, though.
Ahh I see I see. Well how would you go about solving this problem without plug and chugging? Seems really hard
 
Let ##n## be the floor of ##x##. I would try breaking up the integral over the intervals ##[0,n]## and ##[n,x]## (for example, ##\int_0^{7/2}=\int_0^3+\int_3^{7/2}##). You can use apostol's formula on the first piece, and directly evaluate the second.
 
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Infrared said:
Let ##n## be the floor of ##x##. I would try breaking up the integral over the intervals ##[0,n]## and ##[n,x]## (for example, ##\int_0^{7/2}=\int_0^3+\int_3^{7/2}##). You can use apostol's formula on the first piece, and directly evaluate the second.

Still seems like it would involve plug and chugging, I think I'm just going to have to skip this problem sadly.
 
There's a (very) small amount of case work, but no blind 'plug and chug' needed.
 
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Infrared said:
There's a (very) small amount of case work, but no blind 'plug and chug' needed.

Guess I'll go back to it, lol.
 

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