Why don't motorcycle clutches need torsional damper springs?

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The discussion clarifies why motorcycle clutches, specifically wet multiplate designs, do not utilize torsional damper springs, unlike car clutches. Motorcycle engines, such as those in Harley-Davidson models, are often well-balanced or equipped with vibration dampers on the sprocket shaft, mitigating engine vibrations. In contrast, car clutches connect directly to the flywheel, making it impractical to incorporate a vibration damper between the engine and clutch. Additionally, automatic transmissions utilize torque converters that prevent direct vibration transfer to the transmission.

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I was reading the difference in construction between a car clutch (dry, single plate) and a motorcycle clutch (wet, multiplate). I understand wet multiplate clutches do not have torsional springs in them.

  1. How is the Engine vibration damped then?
  2. Can we not use this same arrangement in a car?
 
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In answer to question 1: Some motorcycle engines are well-balanced, so they vibrate very little. Others, such as those in Harley-Davidson motorcycles, are inherently unbalanced, due to their 60° V-Twin engine design. Many of these have vibration dampers on the sprocket shaft of the engine, the shaft that drives the primary chain. Some of the older H-D engines were directly mounted to the frame, so engine vibration was transmitted to the rider. Starting in about the 80's engines and transmissions were rubber mounted, so riders didn't feel the vibration as much.
I'm not familiar with what other motorcycle manufacturers do.
For question 2, car engines are connected more directly to the transmission, rather than use a primary chain. For a standard transmission, the clutch with its pressure plate is attached directly to the flywheel, so it wouldn't be feasible to mount a vibration damper between the engine and clutch. For automatic transmissions, the torque converter isn't a direct connection between the engine and transmission, so engine vibration isn't tranferred to the transmission.
 
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Thanks, Mark. I just now found a drawing of a clutch pack of another motorcycle. And like you said, this had its damper springs on the basket as against that of dampers in the the clutch plate type in cars.

And yeah, torque converter point is one thing I forgot when I was thinking about DCT clutches.
 

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