Why don't we have gamma ray microscopes?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using gamma rays for microscopy, questioning why shorter wavelengths, such as those of gamma rays, are not utilized for imaging at a microscopic level. Participants explore the limitations and challenges associated with high-energy photons in this context.

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  • Participants question the current technological limitations and the reasons behind the inability to focus gamma rays for microscopy. Some express curiosity about the relationship between gamma ray astronomy and microscopy.

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The conversation includes various perspectives on the potential for gamma ray microscopy, with some participants suggesting that while it may be possible, significant challenges remain. Guidance has been offered to research related topics, indicating a productive direction for further exploration.

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There are references to existing gamma ray telescopes and the difficulties in focusing gamma rays, as well as reminders about forum rules regarding homework help and research expectations.

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Homework Statement


Why? We can use shorter wavelengths than that of electrons to view electrons and more? What is stopping us? Can the image not be imprinted on a plate of some sort instead of being viewed by the eye directly?

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I'm guessing no one invented a method to use these high energy photons yet
 
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Is this an actual homework question or does it arise strictly out of curiosity?
 
The question was saying that electron microscopes are better than light microscopes because of shorter wavelength used. optical microscopes use light in the visible range. But, why can't we use gamma rays and not view it directly with the eye. So I would say my homework influenced my curiosity
 
curiousmind04 said:
The question was saying that electron microscopes are better than light microscopes because of shorter wavelength used. optical microscopes use light in the visible range. But, why can't we use gamma rays and not view it directly with the eye. So I would say my homework influenced my curiosity
Okay. I'd suggest that you do a little research (web search) on a related topic, namely that of gamma ray astronomy, and in particular, gamma ray telescopes. Pay attention to the detector technology employed and the resolution achievable. Also search on "gamma ray focusing".
 
gneill said:
Okay. I'd suggest that you do a little research (web search) on a related topic, namely that of gamma ray astronomy, and in particular, gamma ray telescopes. Pay attention to the detector technology employed and the resolution achievable. Also search on "gamma ray focusing".
Ok thanks, you don't know? I'm lazy
 
curiousmind04 said:
Ok thanks, you don't know? I'm lazy
I do know, having done the reading in the past, but I'm also lazy. Now it's your turn :smile:
 
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Can you sum it up in one short sentence please? It doesn't have to explain everything, just the general reason why its not achievable...yet
 
gneill said:
I do know, having done the reading in the past, but I'm also lazy. Now it's your turn :smile:
:)
 
curiousmind04 said:
Can you sum it up in one short sentence please? It doesn't have to explain everything, just the general reason why its not achievable...yet
That would be doing your research for you. I will say that the reasons why gamma ray astronomy is so difficult will be essentially the same as for microscopy. Your time won't be wasted spending five minutes with a search engine; the reasons are made apparent quickly.
 
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gneill said:
That would be doing your research for you. I will say that the reasons why gamma ray astronomy is so difficult will be essentially the same as for microscopy. Your time won't be wasted spending five minutes with a search engine; the reasons are made apparent quickly.
Ok thanks again, I will get around to it. From your experience, do you think it is possible though?
 
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gneill said:
That would be doing your research for you. I will say that the reasons why gamma ray astronomy is so difficult will be essentially the same as for microscopy. Your time won't be wasted spending five minutes with a search engine; the reasons are made apparent quickly.
Someone on reddit told me it is impossible to focus gamma rays
 
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curiousmind04 said:
Ok thanks again, I will get around to it. From your experience, do you think it is possible though?
I think it is possible but it will be some time before the resolution is anywhere near to what can be achieved by other techniques. I also think that what can be observed by the method will be very limited indeed. Gamma rays are not easily stopped, shadowed, focused, or particularly "friendly" to what they pass through (I don't think gamma ray reflection microscopy is in the cards for anything but certain metals or perhaps crystals).

curiousmind04 said:
Someone on reddit told me it is impossible to focus gamma rays
Everything on the internet is suspect (maybe especially me :smile:) Look for yourself at where I've directed you. You will find working gamma ray telescopes and focusing technologies discussed.
 
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gneill said:
I think it is possible but it will be some time before the resolution is anywhere near to what can be achieved by other techniques. I also think that what can be observed by the method will be very limited indeed. Gamma rays are not easily stopped, shadowed, focused, or particularly "friendly" to what they pass through (I don't think gamma ray reflection microscopy is in the cards for anything but certain metals or perhaps crystals).Everything on the internet is suspect (maybe especially me :smile:) Look for yourself at where I've directed you. You will find working gamma ray telescopes and focusing technologies discussed.
Awesome, apparently we do not have mirrors sufficient enough for gamma ray microscopy (explanation from random redditor)
 
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curiousmind04 said:
Can you sum it up in one short sentence please? It doesn't have to explain everything, just the general reason why its not achievable...yet
Sorry, but this is not how we do things here. We will gladly help you learn, but we will not do your work for you. Please have a look at the forum rules, especially those related to homework.

Also, you have another thread basically discussing the same thing. I will close this one.
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/electron-vs-photon-question-significance-of-momentum.890315/
 
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