Why four components? not 8 components or more?

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In summary, the number of components in the Dirac equation is related to the structure of the Lorentz group and the representations of Weyl spinors. While there are higher order solutions that could result in larger component spinors, this would lead to either reducible representations or the need to introduce gauge degrees of freedom and even supersymmetry and gravity. References for further reading include Ryder's book on QFT.
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i am now studying dirac equation

why there are only four components? not more?

is it possible to test the number of components experimentally?
 
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This is related to the structure of the Lorentz group. Weyl spinors are the fundamental entities with two complex components. Dirac spinors comprise two Weyl spinors transforming in conjugate representations, in terms of Lie algrebras
so(3,1) = sl_2(C) x sl_2(C)
So we have the following representations
(0,0) scalar
(1/2,0) left and (0,1/2) right Weyl spinors
(1/2,0)+(0,1/2) Dirac bispinor
(1/2,1/2) 4-vector
...
 
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humanino said:
This is related to the structure of the Lorentz group. Weyl spinors are the fundamental entities with two complex components. Dirac spinors comprise two Weyl spinors transforming in conjugate representations, in terms of Lie algrebras
so(3,1) = sl_2(C) x sl_2(C)
So we have the following representations
(0,0) scalar
(1/2,0) left and (0,1/2) right Weyl spinors
(1/2,0)+(0,1/2) Dirac bispinor
(1/2,1/2) 4-vector
...

thanks. any reference?
 
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I guess Ryder's book on QFT, but I am not sure.
 
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The original Dirac hamiltonian (taken from wikipedia, the exact form isn't really important for this) is just:
[tex]\beta{m} -i\hbar\alpha\nabla[/tex]
where alpha and beta need to be chosen according to their commutation relations. It turns out that the minimal solution to the commutation relations are 4x4 matrices (or quaternions). However, there are higher order solutions which would lead to larger component spinors.
 
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I'm not positive about this, but I suspect that having bigger representations would mean they're either reducible or describe particles with greater spins, which is in principle possible. However, when you get up to spin 1 (fundamental) particles, you end up needing to introduce gauge degrees of freedom, and when you add spin 3/2 (fundamental) particles you end up needing to introduce both supersymmetry AND gravity into the mix. Oops.
 

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The number of components in a scientific theory is determined by the amount of evidence and data supporting it. In some cases, four components may be sufficient to explain a phenomenon, while in others, more components may be needed. It ultimately depends on the complexity of the system being studied.

2. Can a theory with four components be considered valid?

Yes, a theory with four components can absolutely be considered valid. The number of components does not determine the validity of a theory, but rather the evidence and logical reasoning behind it. A theory with four components may be just as valid as one with eight or more components.

3. Are there any examples of successful theories with only four components?

Yes, there are many examples of successful theories with four components. One example is the Bohr model of the atom, which has four components (nucleus, electrons, energy levels, and quantum numbers) and has been widely accepted in the scientific community for over a century.

4. Why do some scientists prefer simpler theories with fewer components?

Simplicity is a key principle in science, as it allows for easier understanding and testing of theories. Some scientists may prefer simpler theories with fewer components because they are more elegant and easier to work with. Additionally, simpler theories may have a wider range of applicability.

5. Could there be more than four components in a theory, but some are not yet discovered?

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