Why Haven't Car Companies Implemented Comprehensive Data Historians Yet?

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Car companies have not yet implemented comprehensive data historians to track metrics such as speed and turn signal usage, primarily due to privacy concerns and the complexity of accessing vehicle data. Users can utilize dash cameras and OBD-II devices to monitor and record vehicle data in real-time. Insurance companies offer dongle-like devices that track driving behavior, potentially leading to better insurance rates for safe drivers. However, direct access to a vehicle's black box data remains limited, necessitating further exploration of available technologies.

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  • Understanding of OBD-II devices and their functionalities
  • Familiarity with dash camera technology and its capabilities
  • Knowledge of vehicle black box data and its implications
  • Awareness of telematics and insurance tracking devices
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  • Research OBD-II devices for personal data access and monitoring
  • Explore dash camera options that record speed and driving behavior
  • Investigate apps that provide real-time vehicle data monitoring
  • Learn about telematics systems used by insurance companies for tracking
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Automotive enthusiasts, insurance professionals, and anyone interested in vehicle data monitoring and privacy implications.

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I think it would be great if cars software could historize data such as speed, using turn signals, etc which can be used in court to prove/disprove if someone was in fact speeding or didn’t use their turn signal. Why haven’t companies moved this way yet?
 
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Apart from turn signals, what makes you think they haven't?
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Apart from turn signals, what makes you think they haven't?
I’ve never heard of it. How can I access the data?
 
My mother in law has a dongle-like-thing in her car from an insurance company that tracks things like car speed.
If you don't speed, you get better insurance rates.
 
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BillTre said:
My mother in law has a dongle-like-thing in her car from an insurance company that tracks things like car speed.
If you don't speed, you get better insurance rates.
You beat me to it. Here is a link with more info: https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/how-do-those-car-insurance-tracking-devices-work
 
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@BillTre and @berkeman, note that the data port is a way to access the data in real time via a stand alone device or bluetooth adapter, but I don't think you can access the car's actual black box that way.

...which isn't to say that wouldn't still meet the OP's needs.
 
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russ_watters said:
If you forgive the tone, this is informative:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech.../26/keep-your-car-black-box-private/20609035/

Edit: a dash camera might meet your requirements. They can record speed and hear your turn signals.
The dash cam is in the works, but I want as much evidence at my disposal as possible. That would include retrieving data from the vehicle blackbox with a time stamp.
 
Maylis said:
The dash cam is in the works, but I want as much evidence at my disposal as possible
Research apps that can monitor the data in real time and record it. I'm not sure if a stand alone device exactly matching what you want exists though.

...edit: I've seen ones for parents to monitor kids though.
 
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russ_watters said:
Research apps that can monitor the data in real time and record it. I'm not sure if a stand alone device exactly matching what you want exists though.

...edit: I've seen ones for parents to monitor kids though.

It sounds like what I want is the OBD-2 device, but only I have access to the data
 

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