murshid_islam
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can anyone please help me with this. why is 0! = 1?
thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
The discussion revolves around the mathematical definition of 0! (zero factorial) and why it is equal to 1. Participants explore the implications of this definition, its consistency with other mathematical concepts, and the reasoning behind it, touching on aspects of combinatorics, recursion, and definitions in mathematics.
Participants express a range of views on the definition of 0!. While some agree on its utility and consistency, others highlight the arbitrary nature of the definition and question its implications. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.
Some participants reference recursive definitions and relationships between factorials, while others point out the potential for confusion due to the arbitrary nature of definitions in mathematics. There are also mentions of programming language conventions that may influence perceptions of the symbols involved.
It didn't have any prior meaning before the mathematicians appropriated it, so yes, they were free to decide what that symbol collection 0! should mean.murshid_islam said:so mathematicians just decided that 0! = 1? is that what you mean?
Quite so.murshid_islam said:for example, 3! is the product of the first three integers. but 0! does not have such meaning. it is just defined to be 1. am i correct?
shmoe said:But a decision to require n!/n = (n-1)! to be true where n=1 is arbitrary.
Spiderman said:At first I thought this was a totally absurd question, because in many programming languages "!=" means "not equal to". Of course 0 is not equal to 1
I've been programming all weekend so everything else goes out the door.
what said:0! doesn't have to be defined exactly, look at this relation
\frac{n!}{k!} = (n - k)!
matt grime said:Then why isn't 0! 0*(-1)! which must be 0 if (-1)! is defined?
Robokapp said:0! has no factors. But then again you can *1 as many times as you please... so 1* just...becomes 1 since the multiplication can't be performed because of absence of the second term?
I also heard an explanation that sounds like
"there is exactly one way to arrange zero objects"
FunkyDwarf said:from memory its something to do with the gamma distrubution