Why is fcc more ductile than bcc

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The discussion centers on the comparative ductility of face-centered cubic (fcc) and body-centered cubic (bcc) crystal structures, exploring the reasons behind the observed differences in ductility despite the greater number of slip planes in bcc structures. The conversation includes theoretical considerations, material properties, and the influence of alloying elements.

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  • Some participants suggest that the closely packed nature of fcc structures allows for easier atomic slippage and greater plastic deformation compared to bcc structures, which are not as closely packed.
  • It is noted that fcc metals exhibit a flow stress that is not strongly temperature dependent, contributing to their ductility even at low temperatures.
  • In contrast, the yield stress of bcc metals is significantly temperature dependent, particularly at low temperatures, which may lead to brittle fracture instead of plastic flow.
  • One participant argues that alloying elements play a more critical role in determining ductility than the crystal lattice structure itself, citing the example of pure aluminum versus aluminum alloyed with zinc.
  • Another participant provides an example of Armco iron, a bcc material that exhibits high ductility under specific conditions, suggesting that alloying elements can influence ductility in bcc structures as well.
  • There is a reiteration that elements like phosphorus and sulfur, often considered impurities, can affect ductility and fracture toughness, particularly at low temperatures.

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Participants express differing views on the primary factors influencing ductility, with some emphasizing the importance of crystal structure while others highlight the role of alloying elements. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the relative significance of these factors.

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Participants reference various materials and conditions that may affect ductility, indicating that the discussion is influenced by specific examples and contexts, which may limit the generalizability of claims made.

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Why is fcc more ductile than bcc although bcc has greater number of slip planes than fcc?
 
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Crystalline structure is important because it contributes to the properties of a material. For example, it is easier for planes of atoms to slide by each other if those planes are closely packed. Therefore, lattice structures with closely packed planes allow more plastic deformation than those that are not closely packed. Additionally, cubic lattice structures allow slippage to occur more easily than non-cubic lattices. This is because their symmetry provides closely packed planes in several directions. A face-centered cubic crystal structure will exhibit more ductility (deform more readily under load before breaking) than a body-centered cubic structure. The bcc lattice, although cubic, is not closely packed and forms strong metals. Alpha-iron and tungsten have the bcc form. The fcc lattice is both cubic and closely packed and forms more ductile materials. Gamma-iron, silver, gold, and lead have fcc structures. Finally, HCP lattices are closely packed, but not cubic. HCP metals like cobalt and zinc are not as ductile as the fcc metals.
http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/Materials/Structure/solidstate.htm

See also - http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/Materials/Structure/deformation.htm

http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/Materials/Mechanical/Toughness.htm

See figure 2a (fcc) and 2b (bcc) in the following. Note the angle between slip systems.
http://www.egr.uri.edu/che/course/che333/Structure.pdf


In fcc metals, the flow stress, i.e. the force required to move dislocations, is not strongly
temperature dependent. Therefore, dislocation movement remains high even at low
temperatures and the material remains relatively ductile.

In contrast to fcc metal crystals, the yield stress or critical resolved shear stress of bcc
single crystals is markedly temperature dependent, in particular at low temperatures. The
temperature sensitivity of the yield stress of bcc crystals has been attributed to the
presence of interstitial impurities on the one hand, and to a temperature dependent
Peierls-Nabarro force on the other. However, the crack propagation stress is relatively
independent of temperature. Thus the mode of failure changes from plastic flow at high
temperature to brittle fracture at low temperature.
http://www.exo.net/~jillj/activities/mechanical.pdf

http://dmseg5.case.edu/Classes/emse201/overheads/Slip.pdf

This may be the most helpful -
See page 134-135 of The Science and Engineering of Materials By Donald R. Askeland, Pradeep P. Fulay, Wendelin J. Wright
http://books.google.com/books?id=qz...4#v=onepage&q=Ductility slip fcc bcc&f=false
 
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Alloying elements are by far more important than crystal lattice to determine ductility.
Take pure aluminium, it has virtually no limit to ductility. The sputtering targets I used got a notch by pressing one's nail on them.
But alloyed with 8% zinc (AA7049), aluminium loses much ductility, with only 8% guaranteed elongation at break.
 
One example of very ductile body-centred cubic is Armco iron:
http://www.aksteel.it/cataloghi/download/aii.pdf

It's used annealed and slowly cooled, ferritic (BCC), for its soft ferromagnetic properties, and also its resistance to corrosion.
Medium grades guarantee <0.01% of C, P, S and even Mn and Si. It's essentially plain ferritic pure iron.

With 200MPa yield strength, 40% elongation and 70% reduction of area at break, it is excellent at cold-forming. Such figures are absolutely similar to austenitic (FCC) iron-based alloys.

Hence my claim that essentially the alloying elements (C, P, S...) determine ductility.
 


Enthalpy said:
Hence my claim that essentially the alloying elements (C, P, S...) determine ductility.
P and S are generally considered impurities in most alloys, particularly structural materials. Both can increase notch sensitivity, or conversely reduce fracture toughness, particularly at cold temperatures.
 

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