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Why is fcc more ductile than bcc

  1. Nov 14, 2011 #1
    HI all

    Why is fcc more ductile than bcc although bcc has greater number of slip planes than fcc?
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  3. Nov 28, 2011 #2


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    Re: Ductility


    See also - http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/Materials/Structure/deformation.htm


    See figure 2a (fcc) and 2b (bcc) in the following. Note the angle between slip systems.
    http://www.egr.uri.edu/che/course/che333/Structure.pdf [Broken]

    http://www.exo.net/~jillj/activities/mechanical.pdf [Broken]


    This may be the most helpful -
    See page 134-135 of The Science and Engineering of Materials By Donald R. Askeland, Pradeep P. Fulay, Wendelin J. Wright
    http://books.google.com/books?id=qz...4#v=onepage&q=Ductility slip fcc bcc&f=false
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  4. Nov 28, 2011 #3
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    Alloying elements are by far more important than crystal lattice to determine ductility.
    Take pure aluminium, it has virtually no limit to ductility. The sputtering targets I used got a notch by pressing one's nail on them.
    But alloyed with 8% zinc (AA7049), aluminium loses much ductility, with only 8% guaranteed elongation at break.
  5. Dec 12, 2011 #4
    Re: Ductility

    One example of very ductile body-centred cubic is Armco iron:

    It's used annealed and slowly cooled, ferritic (BCC), for its soft ferromagnetic properties, and also its resistance to corrosion.
    Medium grades guarantee <0.01% of C, P, S and even Mn and Si. It's essentially plain ferritic pure iron.

    With 200MPa yield strength, 40% elongation and 70% reduction of area at break, it is excellent at cold-forming. Such figures are absolutely similar to austenitic (FCC) iron-based alloys.

    Hence my claim that essentially the alloying elements (C, P, S...) determine ductility.
  6. Dec 13, 2011 #5


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    P and S are generally considered impurities in most alloys, particularly structural materials. Both can increase notch sensitivity, or conversely reduce fracture toughness, particularly at cold temperatures.
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