Why Is LCDM Preferred Over VSL in Modern Cosmology?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the comparison between the Lambda Cold Dark Matter (LCDM) model and varying speed of light (VSL) theories in modern cosmology. Participants explore the mechanisms behind these theories, the popularity of LCDM, and the challenges and implications of VSL, including its impact on fundamental constants and conservation laws.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses curiosity about the mechanisms behind VSL and questions why LCDM is more widely accepted, suggesting there may be traditional biases at play.
  • Discussion includes the possibility of a varying fine-structure constant (alpha) and its investigation through various methods, with some methods yielding inconclusive results.
  • A specific method proposed by J.D. Barrow involves analyzing quasar light absorption to detect changes in alpha, with a request for recent papers on this subject.
  • Concerns are raised about VSL breaking Lorentz invariance and covariance, leading to questions about the implications of having a preferred frame for physical laws.
  • Participants discuss the implications of inflation violating the strong energy condition and VSL violating Lorentz invariance, questioning the preference for either violation.
  • There is a mention of potential issues with conservation of energy in the context of VSL, with questions about whether it is violated or if alternative mechanisms exist.
  • A participant references a problem with black holes in the context of VSL, specifically how a varying speed of light could affect the radius of black holes over time.
  • Another participant suggests searching for papers by John Webb and Michael Murphy regarding quasar absorption line methods as a resource for further understanding.
  • Concerns are raised about the discrepancies in results from different observational methods regarding the variation of alpha, particularly between Keck and VLT observations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the validity and implications of VSL compared to LCDM. There is no consensus on the acceptance of VSL or the interpretation of evidence regarding varying alpha, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of these theories.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include unresolved questions about the implications of varying constants, the dependence on observational methods, and the potential for systematic errors in measurements. The discussion reflects a range of hypotheses and uncertainties regarding the validity of VSL and its comparison to LCDM.

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A couple of things to start with. I'm going to put forward some questions I need help understanding surrounding VSL. I'm not anti-LCDM or against inflation/etc. I'm just interested in the mechanisms of setting up a 'new' theory (I'm aware Einstein delved into VSL, and subsequently disregarded, whilst formulating GR).

I'm also a finishing undergraduate student. Whilst I have some questions of my own, I would greatly appreciate input of any kind - questions of your own (not necessarily things you don't know, just things about the theory I should look up on my own - problems/inconsistancies etc.) or even just reasons you would disregard the possibility.

My purpose isn't to find out whether VSL is correct or not, I'm more interested in why there seems to be such a mass popularity for LCDM (I know the definition of standard theory would be one that is accepted by most people) and if the reasons for the rejection of alternatives like VSL is purely scientific or holds some tranditional bias as well.

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I'll start off with the possibility of a varying-fine-structure constant (alpha). I don't know what the current stance is, and I'm trying to catch up on years of papers but from what I've seen:

- There are four main methods to investigate a changing alpha.
- Three of these methods have yeilded 100%+ error bars, so are inconclusive.

The fourth (J.D. Barrow) looks for small changes in the absorption of quasar light by gas clouds between us and the subject. The separation of different lines is analysed, allowing any combination of lines to be investigated meaning there should be a good chance for accuracy and precision. (The main advantage seems to be that we can predict where the spectral lines should be if alpha is varying, so if we find the lines in these new, adjusted positions then...) I would like to know if there has been any recent papers on this subject, or anything anyone feels is particularly noteworthy about this method.

Secondly, VSL interprets the possibility of a varying alpha as a varying of the inverse of the square of the speed of light. Lorentz invariance and covariance is broken - which I assume means there is a preferred frame for the formulation of physical laws? Is this valid? and if so, what physical meaning does it have?

Also, Inflation seems to violate the strong energy condition - and VSL violates Lorentz invariance. Is there any reason either of these two violations would be preferable?
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There are a couple of problems with VSL I'd like to discuss also:

There is a well known issue with conservation of energy (I assume this is still present, I've managed to only digest a handful of papers on the subject and am grateful of any guidance) since it depends on the speed of light. Is, quite simply, conservation of energy violated? or is there another mechanism to avoid this? In fact, is there any reason to even assume that conservation of energy should apply to the whole Universe over vast periods of time?

And, just quickly, there's a small part in (J.D Barrow; Physical review D, Vol 59, 043515) about a problem with black holes. The issue lies with the raduis of a black hole - which depends on the speed of light. Differentiating R to find a rate of change when including a varying C shows that if c is falling (as required to solve the horizon, flatness etc) then the radius of black holes will increase significantly as the Universe ages.

I am grateful for any input on this subject, be it problems that I might not be considering or general thoughts.
 
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Now I just don't believe no-one has an opinion on this :wink: I'm not looking for unadulterated expert/professional guidance, just some thoughts!
 
If you search for papers by John Webb of the University of New South Wales, Michael Murphy etc, you will find papers on the quasar absorption line methods.
 
The problem with the QSO absorption method for alpha is that the results from Keck indicated that in the past alpha was lower, but there was no function form to this, i.e. it just appeared that on average absorption systems probed with this method had a lower alpha than that measured in labs on Earth. This makes some small systematic effect a likely candidate for the explanation. Michael Murphy spent a lot of time looking for possible systematics but nothing was found that could explain it.

The real problem though is that results using the VLT have not matched the results from Keck. Other groups have also done similar analysis with different data and have not found the same effect as the UNSW group. I would say that varying alpha isn't dead, but the evidence for it is underwhelming.
 

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