Why is Math the Secret to Unlocking PF's Greatness?

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The discussion revolves around the perceived value of mathematics in the context of the Physics Forums (PF) community. Participants explore various reasons for PF's appeal, including the quality of discussions, the management of the forum, and the attitudes towards different types of contributors.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that math is fundamental to the credibility and quality of discussions on PF.
  • Others emphasize that PF provides a refuge from disruptive contributors, such as trolls and crackpots.
  • There is a suggestion that definitions of terms like "troll" may vary among participants, leading to differing views on their roles in discussions.
  • Some express appreciation for the forum's inclusive environment that welcomes questions from individuals of all backgrounds and education levels.
  • A few participants reflect on their personal journeys with math, including past struggles and current motivations to improve their mathematical skills.
  • Several members highlight the importance of the community and the management team in fostering a positive atmosphere for learning.
  • There are mentions of the contrast between PF and other platforms, such as Physics Stack Exchange and Yahoo Answers, regarding the treatment of questions and contributors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement on the value of PF and its community, but there are competing views on the role of math and the nature of contributors like trolls. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitions and implications of these roles.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference personal experiences with math education and the challenges they faced, which may influence their perspectives on the importance of math in the forum.

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Individuals interested in the dynamics of online academic communities, the role of mathematics in discussions, and those seeking supportive environments for learning may find this discussion relevant.

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Pf is so great because of math. Math is the street cred of life. So that's why I continue to visit PF.
 
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For me, it's because PF doesn't tolerate crackpots and trolls. It's nice to have a refuge where those types aren't given free reign to trash scientific discussions.
 
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Well, one persons troll is another persons savior, Borg. Math never let's you down.
 
Maybe your definition is different from mine?
Internet troll:
In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion, often for their own amusement.
How can this type of person be considered a savior? ?:)
 
Idk, I think we're on the same team, Borg, we both love PF
 
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Math made this all possible.

I like Borg's answer. Careful management has resulted in a high quality environment, attractive to kind, intelligent people.

The population makes pf great. Dead boards are no fun.
 
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I think this is the harsh reality, it's all about math, the biological philosophers like myself have good intentions, but we're talking through our ass.
 
DiracPool said:
I think this is the harsh reality, it's all about math, the biological philosophers like myself have good intentions, but we're talking through our ass.

Are you being sarcastic or something? If you have an issue with this forum, just come out and say it.
 
Borg said:
For me, it's because PF doesn't tolerate crackpots and trolls.
Well, yeah, but they DID let both of us in :smile:
 
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My favorite part about PF is that it allows quality questions from anybody, regardless one’s age or level of education, as long as the person asking the question is willing to learn and not trying to take advantage of those trying to help them. I used to explore the Physics Stack Exchange, but there was so much mockery and negativity towards people whose questions were not “complex enough”. And then you have places like Yahoo answers where people just throw out their homework assignments, waiting for people to give them answers (lots of times incorrect ones).

PF is way awesome :smile:
 
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ProfuselyQuarky said:
My favorite part about PF is that it allows quality questions from anybody, regardless one’s age or level of education, as long as the person asking the question is willing to learn and not trying to take advantage of those trying to help them. I used to explore the Physics Stack Exchange, but there was so much mockery and negativity towards people whose questions were not “complex enough”. And then you have places like Yahoo answers where people just throw out their homework assignments, waiting for people to give them answers (lots of times incorrect ones).

PF is way awesome :smile:

I used to post unsolvable math questions on Yahoo answers. Sometimes I got (incorrect) solutions as answers.
 
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micromass said:
I used to post unsolvable math questions on Yahoo answers. Sometimes I got (incorrect) solutions as answers.
For real? Do you know the links to those posts?
 
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micromass said:
I used to post unsolvable math questions on Yahoo answers. Sometimes I got (incorrect) solutions as answers.
Hilarious!:DD
 
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ProfuselyQuarky said:
PF is way awesome :smile:
Besides that just logging into PF tends to raise ones IQ by about 10 points. :cool: (best site I have ever seen) :thumbup:
 
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1oldman2 said:
Besides that just logging into PF tends to raise ones IQ by about 10 points. :cool: (best site I have ever seen) :thumbup:
Aw, I didn’t know that!

I guess it balances out with all the other things I waste my time with o:):biggrin::DD
 
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PF is great because it is managed by a team of fantastic people, who do an awesome job!
 
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StevieTNZ said:
PF is great because it is managed by a team of fantastic people, who do an awesome job!
I second this one :wink:

(Stevie, your new avatar is cute!)
 
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ProfuselyQuarky said:
(Stevie, your new avatar is cute!)
Thank you! I quite like it. It was only a few days ago I changed it to a Wall-E image. Yesterday I changed it to the Elephant.
 
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StevieTNZ said:
Thank you! I quite like it. It was only a few days ago I changed it to a Wall-E image. Yesterday I changed it to the Elephant.
Well, stop changing it. This one is for keeps :smile:
 
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micromass said:
Are you being sarcastic or something? If you have an issue with this forum, just come out and say it.

No, I'm not being sarcastic, I meant what I said. This is reality. I eshewed math as a youngster. Now I'm faced with that decision because I've been accepted to an information science grad school program. As you know from my postings I'm a pontificating professsor with my head in the clouds. And that's actually where I like my head to be. But now I have to grow up and learn math. So this is a new adventure for me. I was actually really good at math in high school. I also wrote video games in assembly language on the 6502 processor in 1983. But then I found sex, drugs and rock and roll as an adolescent and blew it. So now at 48 I'm trying to get it back.
 
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It was actually really embarrassing. Somehow I was able to get an undergraduate degree in Biology without taking a single math class. They made me take one class, essentially entitled calculus for poets. I failed it and had to take it the next semester and got a C. Pathetic.
 
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As others have said PF has a lot of really awesome people.
 
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We have to give credits to Our superman @Greg Bernhardt for creating this amazing place and our awesome mentors. They show us what selfless service is! They make physics forums a great place.
 
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PF is really a great place! Mentors and science advisers here are experts in their respective fields and it's really great to learn things from such people. From simple school-work questions to some really advanced scientific and technical discussions, I've seen true quality here. Today's my one year anniversary and I feel great to be a part of this place. Thank you @Greg Bernhardt!
 
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gracy said:
They show us what selfless service is!

I think gracy hit the nail on the head. What makes PF great is the (math) and the selfless service, although I'm sure Greg would appreciate you getting a premium membership. Personally, all I offer is a lot of whining. But I think the PF people still love me. I offer a lot of selfless information. Is it worth anything? IDK.
 
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I just joined and I'm already loving PF. I like the fact that the people who help you don't give the answer from the get go, but they help you find it out for yourself. that way you understand and learn your mistakes so you don't make them again. Thank you all the wonderful people who helped me so far. :3

Loving PF so far. :partytime::partytime:
 
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