Why is my Cross Product Calculation Resulting in a Negative Value?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of the cross product in a physics context, specifically involving the vectors (dl)y hat and (x1)x hat. Participants are exploring the implications of vector order in cross product calculations and the resulting signs of the output.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the cross product (0 dl 0) x (x1 0 0) and arrives at (-x1dl)z hat, questioning why the expected answer is positive.
  • Another participant confirms the calculation, stating that reversing the order of the vectors yields a positive result, (x1, 0, 0) x (0, dl, 0) = xdlk.
  • One participant expresses confusion, asserting that their original answer should be correct based on their calculations.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of the order of vectors in cross product calculations, suggesting that the question should be stated precisely.
  • Another participant references the Biot-Savart Law, indicating that their calculations involving dl and r are yielding incorrect results, leading them to suspect an error in the system.
  • A repeated concern about potential errors in the computer program's interpretation of vector order in cross products is raised.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct interpretation of the cross product results, with multiple competing views on the calculations and the implications of vector order remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the clarity of the original question and its presentation, which may affect the interpretation of the cross product. The discussion also highlights potential dependencies on the specifications of the computer program used for calculations.

SeannyBoi71
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Hi all,

Just having some trouble understanding a certain example of cross product. It's actually for physics, but figured it belongs in this forum.

In the question I am supposed to cross (dl)y hat with (x1)x hat.

So I go (0 dl 0) x (x1 0 0) = (-x1dl)z hat. But turns out the answer the computer looking for is the same but without the negative. Wouldn't that be the case if i crossed it backwards, i.e. (x1)x hat cross (dl) y hat ??
 
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Yes,
(0, dl, 0)\times{(}x_1, 0, 0)=-xdl<b>k</b>
and
(x_1, 0, 0)\times{(}0, dl, 0)=xdl<b>k</b>
 
Well then if that's the case I'm still confused. Because then my answer should be right.
 
You need to write the question exactly as it presented, since the cross product depends on which comes first.
 
Ok, I am thinking that there is an error in the system, because according to the Biot Savart Law it has a dl x r in the numerator, where r = (x1 0 0) and dl = (0 dl 0). So I computed that but yet my answer was wrong.
 
SeannyBoi71 said:
Ok, I am thinking that there is an error in the system, because according to the Biot Savart Law it has a dl x r in the numerator, where r = (x1 0 0) and dl = (0 dl 0). So I computed that but yet my answer was wrong.
Check the computer program specs. Presumably it will tell you how it interprets a cross product for the order in which the vectors are input.
 

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