Why is potential energy the NEGATIVE of the work done?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between potential energy and work done by forces, specifically addressing why the change in potential energy is expressed as the negative of the work done. Participants seek to understand the implications of the negative sign and its physical meaning, with references to concepts like conservation of energy and the relative nature of potential energy.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for a detailed explanation of why the change in potential energy is the negative of the work done by a force, expressing difficulty in understanding this concept.
  • Another participant illustrates the concept using the example of a falling book, stating that as the book falls, it loses potential energy, which is reflected in the negative change in potential energy.
  • Some participants emphasize the principle of conservation of energy, suggesting that when work is done, potential energy must decrease, and this is relative to a chosen zero point for potential energy.
  • There is a discussion about positive work being done when lifting an object, which increases its potential energy, and the associated negative work done by gravity in this context.
  • One participant proposes that the choice to define potential energy as the negative of work is a convention that aids in understanding mechanical energy and its conservation, though they note that alternative definitions could lead to different interpretations in physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the relationship between potential energy and work, with some agreeing on the conservation of energy principle while others raise questions about the implications of positive and negative work. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the broader implications of defining potential energy in this manner.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the relative nature of potential energy and the dependence on the chosen reference point, which introduces complexity into the discussion. There are also references to the implications of these definitions on mechanical energy, but no consensus is reached on the broader consequences.

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Why is the change in potential energy the NEGATIVE of the work done by a force? What is the negative sign doing there, and what physical meaning does it serve? Any input is appreciated, but a rather detailed explanation would be great, as I am having much difficulty understanding this.
 
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If you drop a book to splatter a cockroach, this book has done work. Useful work. In falling, the book has lost potential energy. The change in its PE is negative; PE is lower after the fall than before the fall.

Does that answer your question?
 
In other words, "conservation of energy". If you do something that does work, the potential energy must have decreased. (Remember that potential energy is always "relative" to something. The potential energy in a given problem can positive or negative depending upon the zero point. "Negative" just means "decreased".)
 
HallsofIvy said:
In other words, "conservation of energy". If you do something that does work, the potential energy must have decreased. (Remember that potential energy is always "relative" to something. The potential energy in a given problem can positive or negative depending upon the zero point. "Negative" just means "decreased".)

And the conservation here of course is reflected by an increase in the kinetic energy which is equal to the decrease in the potential energy
 
Thanks for the responses.

But let's say I do positive work in bringing a book up from the floor. It certainly increased potential energy, right?
 
annms said:
Thanks for the responses.

But let's say I do positive work in bringing a book up from the floor. It certainly increased potential energy, right?
Then you are losing energy, chemical energy from your body.
 
annms said:
Thanks for the responses.

But let's say I do positive work in bringing a book up from the floor. It certainly increased potential energy, right?
And gravity -- the force associated with that potential -- has done negative work when the potential energy increases.
 
Redbelly98 said:
And gravity -- the force associated with that potential -- has done negative work when the potential energy increases.
Thank you! So really the equality means- the change in potential energy is the negative of whatever the work done by a field (electric or gravitational). Correct?
 
I would say also that PE variations are chosen to be the negative of work but it's a personal choice, made by the scientists because it's very comfortable: the first advantage is the concept of PE (the potential work a system can do if it owns PE) and the second is to define the Mechanical Energy as the sum of PE and Kinetic Energy (and so conservation of this sum), but no one forbids to define Mech En as the difference between KE and PE and a lot of things will change in many fields of Physics' Knowledge .
 

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