Why is slope represented as delta y over delta x?

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The discussion centers around the representation of slope as delta y over delta x, exploring the reasoning behind this convention in the context of calculus and derivatives.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants question why slope is defined as delta y over delta x rather than the reverse. Some express confusion about the implications of this representation, while others offer insights into the relationship between dependent and independent variables.

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Several participants have contributed to the conversation, with some providing explanations about the typical interpretation of slope in relation to dependent and independent variables. There is acknowledgment of alternative perspectives, but no explicit consensus has been reached regarding the representation of slope.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of viewing slope as rise over run and the context in which these terms are used, particularly in relation to functions where one variable depends on another.

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Homework Statement


You always see slope represented as \frac{\delta y}{\delta x}. Is there any particular reason for why the change in "y" is in the numerator and the change in "x" in the denominator? Why couldn't we represent it as delta x over delta y?

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\frac{\delta y}{\delta x}


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I was looking at the derivative coefficient \frac{dy}{dx} late last night and couldn't figure out why its delta y over delta x. Could someone fill me in on the logic behind this? why can't slope be represented as delta x over delta y?
 
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vanmaiden said:
You always see slope represented as \frac{\delta y}{\delta x}. Is there any particular reason for why the change in "y" is in the numerator and the change in "x" in the denominator??
Er, what do you think the slope of a line is? (I'm not asking how do you think slope is computed, I'm asking what you think it actually is)
 
Haha, I think that slope is rise over run. I guess what I'm trying to say is that why can't it be run over rise? lol.
 
I think it can:rolleyes:
i.e.

y = 1/2x
Rise 1, Run 2

x = 2y

Run 2, Rise 1
 
When you have y as a function of x, the derivative tells you how fast y changes relative to x.
We typically think of the dependent variable as changing because the independent variable changes and are interested in how fast the dependent variable changes relative to the independent variable.
We are seldom interested in how fast the independent variable changes relative to the dependent variable.

If, for example, y represents distance traveled, in miles, as a function of time, x, in hours, dy/dx is the "speed" in miles per hour. "dx/dy" would be hours per mile. It's a perfectly good calculation, but not one we typically use.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
We are seldom interested in how fast the independent variable changes relative to the dependent variable.

If, for example, y represents distance traveled, in miles, as a function of time, x, in hours, dy/dx is the "speed" in miles per hour. "dx/dy" would be hours per mile. It's a perfectly good calculation, but not one we typically use.

That is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thank you HallsofIvy! I figured that you could calculate the rate of change of the independent variable relative to the rate of the dependent variable, but I was wondering why it wasn't used. Thanks again!

Thank you all else who helped me as well! (:
 

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