Why is the moment restricted at the wall 0.594)(1200)(8/3)?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the moment restricted at a wall in the context of an area-moment diagram related to a beam with a triangular load. Participants explore the reasoning behind the specific moment value of 0.594)(1200)(8/3 and the centroid's position of the triangular load, with a focus on the geometry and calculations involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the term 8/3 should be interpreted as 1 + 3(2/3), referencing the centroid's position of the triangle being 2/3 from the right end.
  • Another participant calculates the moment as M = (0.5)(4)(1200)(3) = 7200 Nm, questioning the initial moment value.
  • There is a correction regarding the centroid's position, stating it is actually 2/3 from the left end, not the right, in the context of a fixed beam with the triangular load.
  • Participants discuss the calculation of the moment, questioning why it is expressed as 4(2/3) = 8/3 instead of 1 + 3(2/3) = 3, emphasizing the starting point of the triangular load at 1m from the wall.
  • A later reply references a diagram (Figure E4.10) that outlines the beam and load layout, indicating the need to determine reactions at the wall before calculating the moment.

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Participants express differing views on the calculation of the moment and the interpretation of the centroid's position, indicating that multiple competing views remain without consensus on the correct approach.

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Participants reference specific geometry and calculations related to the beam and triangular load, but the discussion does not resolve the assumptions or steps involved in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


in the area-moment diagram , why the moment restricted at the wall is 0.594)(1200)(8/3 )?

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I think \the 8/3 should be 1+3(2/3) , am i right ? Since we know that , the centorid of triangle is 2/3 from the right end , and the triangle has the length of 3m .. ( it's stated in the question that slope is 3m from the wall) ...
 
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since 1+3(2/3) = 3 ,
So, M=(0.5)(4)(1200)(3) = 7200Nm?
 
chetzread said:

Homework Statement


in the area-moment diagram , why the moment restricted at the wall is 0.594)(1200)(8/3 )?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I think \the 8/3 should be 1+3(2/3) , am i right ? Since we know that , the centorid of triangle is 2/3 from the right end , and the triangle has the length of 3m .. ( it's stated in the question that slope is 3m from the wall) ...

No, the centroid of the triangular load is 2/3 from the left end in this case, where the beam is fixed and the triangle has its acute angle.

You really should check these things out more carefully.

http://www.ele.uri.edu/~daly/106/06/project/centroid/centroid.html
 
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SteamKing said:
No, the centroid of the triangular load is 2/3 from the left end in this case, where the beam is fixed and the triangle has its acute angle.

You really should check these things out more carefully.

http://www.ele.uri.edu/~daly/106/06/project/centroid/centroid.html
why it's 4(2/3)=8/3 ?
why not 1+3(2/3) = 3 ?
The triangle only start at 1m away from wall. so length of triangle only 4-1=3m
 
chetzread said:
why it's 4(2/3)=8/3 ?
why not 1+3(2/3) = 3 ?
The triangle only start at 1m away from wall. so length of triangle only 4-1=3m
You might want to look more carefully at the diagram in the OP, Figure E4.10. This shows the layout of the entire beam and the load.

The unsupported span of the beam is 4 meters.

Now, the diagram below Fig. E4.10 is for calculating the slope and deflection of the beam at 3 m from the wall. However, in order to make this calculation, you must first determine the reactions R and M at the wall due to the triangular load, which is why R = (1/2)(4)(1200) and M = (1/2)(4)(1200)(8/3).
 
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