Why is there no DM halo around the solar system?

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The discussion centers on the absence of a dark matter (DM) halo around the solar system, contrasting it with the expected accumulation of DM around central masses like galaxies. Participants highlight that while DM density is low (~5e-13 kg per cubic km near the Sun), its gravitational influence is negligible compared to the mass of the Sun (2e30 kg). The conversation also explores the dynamics of DM, noting that it does not interact non-gravitationally, which prevents it from forming dense regions like baryonic matter. Ultimately, the lack of a detectable DM halo around the solar system is attributed to the relative density of DM compared to the solar system's baryonic mass and the unique gravitational dynamics at play.

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  • #61
Jonathan Scott said:
It's not true that DM doesn't interact at all; it's that it only interacts gravitationally.

It seems at least theoretically possible that if some effect causes it to focus into a narrower stream, then the self-gravitational attraction of that stream would refocus it weakly again later

I'm googling "DM density"...

http://arxiv.org/abs/1205.4033

"we find that the data imply a local dark-matter density of 0.008 +/- 0.003 Msun/pc^3 = 0.3 +/- 0.1 GeV/cm3"

This is way, way too low for gravitational self-interaction.
 
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  • #62
Jonathan Scott said:
I suspect that you'd require very special (physically implausible) conditions to focus the flow sufficiently accurately for the self-gravity to have enough effect to be noticeable.
Hi Jonathan:

I am not sure I understand the implications of self-gravity here. Are you saying that if a hair structure were to form (as apparently predicted by the Prezeau paper nikkkom cited in post #47) with the DM moving out of the space occupied by the hair as new DM moved into this space, that the DM in the hair would gravitationally influence the later DM being focused towards the hair in such a way that the hair structure would cease to exist?

Regards,
Buzz
 
  • #63
nikkkom said:
I'm googling "DM density"...

http://arxiv.org/abs/1205.4033

"we find that the data imply a local dark-matter density of 0.008 +/- 0.003 Msun/pc^3 = 0.3 +/- 0.1 GeV/cm3"

This is way, way too low for gravitational self-interaction.

But if you assume an unrealistically ideal uniform flow being focused in an unrealistically ideal mathematical way, you can achieve far higher densities. I'm not saying that's realistic physics, but it might account for the temporary "hair" formation in this simulation. However, I wouldn't expect it to be stable even in theory, so the flow would disperse more randomly afterwards.
 

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