Why is there no DM halo around the solar system?

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The discussion centers on the absence of a dark matter (DM) halo around the solar system, contrasting it with the expected accumulation of DM around central masses like galaxies. It is suggested that while DM is uniformly distributed in the galaxy, its low density means it has negligible gravitational effects on the solar system, which follows Newtonian dynamics. Calculations indicate that the mass of DM within the solar system is minimal compared to the Sun's mass, explaining the lack of observable effects on planetary orbits. The conversation also touches on the dynamics of DM, emphasizing that its lack of non-gravitational interactions prevents it from clumping like baryonic matter. Ultimately, the complexity of DM behavior leads to ongoing questions about its distribution and effects in smaller systems like the solar system.
  • #61
Jonathan Scott said:
It's not true that DM doesn't interact at all; it's that it only interacts gravitationally.

It seems at least theoretically possible that if some effect causes it to focus into a narrower stream, then the self-gravitational attraction of that stream would refocus it weakly again later

I'm googling "DM density"...

http://arxiv.org/abs/1205.4033

"we find that the data imply a local dark-matter density of 0.008 +/- 0.003 Msun/pc^3 = 0.3 +/- 0.1 GeV/cm3"

This is way, way too low for gravitational self-interaction.
 
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  • #62
Jonathan Scott said:
I suspect that you'd require very special (physically implausible) conditions to focus the flow sufficiently accurately for the self-gravity to have enough effect to be noticeable.
Hi Jonathan:

I am not sure I understand the implications of self-gravity here. Are you saying that if a hair structure were to form (as apparently predicted by the Prezeau paper nikkkom cited in post #47) with the DM moving out of the space occupied by the hair as new DM moved into this space, that the DM in the hair would gravitationally influence the later DM being focused towards the hair in such a way that the hair structure would cease to exist?

Regards,
Buzz
 
  • #63
nikkkom said:
I'm googling "DM density"...

http://arxiv.org/abs/1205.4033

"we find that the data imply a local dark-matter density of 0.008 +/- 0.003 Msun/pc^3 = 0.3 +/- 0.1 GeV/cm3"

This is way, way too low for gravitational self-interaction.

But if you assume an unrealistically ideal uniform flow being focused in an unrealistically ideal mathematical way, you can achieve far higher densities. I'm not saying that's realistic physics, but it might account for the temporary "hair" formation in this simulation. However, I wouldn't expect it to be stable even in theory, so the flow would disperse more randomly afterwards.
 

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