Why Isn't Linear Momentum Conserved?

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The discussion centers on the conservation of angular and linear momentum in a collision involving a thin metal bar and a small ball. The bar, with a mass of 9.18 kg and a length of 2.00 m, is struck by a 3.00 kg ball traveling horizontally at 10.0 m/s, which rebounds at 6.00 m/s. The angular speed of the bar immediately after the collision is calculated to be 5.88 rad/s. The key conclusion is that while angular momentum is conserved due to the pivot point's constraints, linear momentum is not conserved when considering only the ball's motion, as external forces act on the system.

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Homework Statement



A thin metal bar, 2.00 m and a mass of 9.18 kg hangs vertically from a ceiling by a frictionless pivot. Suddenly it is struck 1.50 m below the ceiling by a small 3.00 kg ball, initially traveling horizontally at 10.0 m/s. The ball rebounds in the opposite direction with a speed of 6.00 m/s.

(a) Find the angular speed of the bar just after the collision. ***The answer in the textbook is 5.88 rad/s, and that makes sense to me.***

(b) During the collision, why is the angular momentum conserved but not the linear momentum?

Homework Equations



m*v(initial)*l = Iω + m*v(final)*l

The Attempt at a Solution



I have absolutely no idea how this is possible. I was always taught that momentum is always conserved.
 
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What are forces at the pivot point?
 
Borek said:
What are forces at the pivot point?

There are tension and gravity forces, but I don't understand how they would affect the linear momentum of the ball in the horizontal dimension.
 
student34 said:
There are tension and gravity forces, but I don't understand how they would affect the linear momentum of the ball in the horizontal dimension.
Hint: Does the pivot move? Why not?
 
It would be useful here to keep in mind what criteria need to be met for linear momentum to be conserved.
 
Linear momentum is conserved (if you consider the whole system).

Linear momentum is not necessarily conserved (if you only consider part of the system).

E.g. bouncing ball: momentum conserved if you consider the Earth's momentum; momentum clearly not conserved if you consider the ball only.
 
Yeah, I should have knew that, thanks everyone!
 

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