Why isn’t this Tesla coil working?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around troubleshooting a non-functional Tesla coil built by a participant. The conversation includes technical specifications, circuit design, component connections, and safety concerns related to high-voltage operations. Participants explore various potential issues and solutions while sharing their insights on the circuit's behavior.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their Tesla coil setup and requests assistance, detailing the components used.
  • Another suggests checking the polarity of the small coil and the connections of the batteries.
  • Concerns are raised about the power supply, with suggestions to use a higher voltage than the current 9V setup.
  • There is a discussion about the LED being reverse biased and its implications for circuit operation.
  • One participant questions the accuracy of the schematic and the connections of the transistor, suggesting potential wiring errors.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of safety precautions when working with Tesla coils, mentioning the dangers of high voltages.
  • After some troubleshooting, the original poster reports that the circuit is now functioning correctly with proper safety measures in place.
  • Later, there is a discussion about using 120V AC for the coil, with multiple participants expressing concern over the safety and feasibility of this approach.
  • One participant mentions their intention to use high-power MOSFETs and discusses the wattage rating of resistors needed for the circuit.
  • Concerns are expressed regarding the original poster's sources and skills, questioning the safety of the DIY project.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the safety and functionality of the Tesla coil. While some solutions and troubleshooting steps are accepted, there remains significant concern about the proposed use of 120V AC and the overall safety of the project.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions about component ratings and circuit behavior, with some expressing skepticism about the power supply's adequacy and the original poster's understanding of the circuit's requirements.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in DIY electronics, Tesla coils, or high-voltage experiments may find this discussion relevant, particularly those seeking troubleshooting advice or safety considerations in similar projects.

  • #31
Aidan345733 said:
I will not connect directly into the AC mains but I was planning on using the 120 volts that is standard in most outlets using a proper transformer that I have acquired.
It's good that you plan to use a transformer to isolate the AC Mains connection from your application circuit. But you still did not address the Line/Neutral question, the Switch question, or the Fuse question that I asked. That's worrisome for me.
Aidan345733 said:
The connected wire will be double insulated and will have a three prong connection in the outlet.
The wire insulation is only a small part of the safety aspects of using such a power source. If your transformer is doubly-insulated and you use other proper construction techniques, then the 3-prong power cord is not needed. If you use a singly-insulated power supply design, then you generally will need to use a 3-prong power cord and attach the Earth Ground wire to your project in some very particular ways.

I would recommend that you just use a pre-made 120V/24VAC transformer that already has appropriate UL safety approvals (or other agency approvals, depending on where you live). That is by far the best approach for your early electronics projects, until you can find a local Mentor to help you with safety aspects of higher-voltage AC Mains based projects. You can use such a packaged transformer for many of your DIY projects going forward. They are available in many power levels at reasonable prices.

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  • #32
I believe I have the power source problem is mostly dealt with but there is still the concern on what MOSFET to use, it must be high power and extremely fast switching, and how much I’m expecting to need the resistor to stand up to without burning. I will definitely consult a local professional for all upcoming projects that involve electrics.
 
  • #33
We can't expect DIY projects to meet the same standards as professional laboratories or work shops. But neither should we offer advice to DIY projects that may cause injury or worse.

The primary safeguard is to see that the DIY project has oversight from an experienced mentor. Sometimes, local hobby clubs can provide that.

The first thing that the mentor can do is to compare the skills of the hobbyist with the intrinsic dangers of the project. In a case such as this one, I would advise the OP to abandon the Tesla Coil project, and to choose a less risky one.

The second thing for the mentor is to look for the many ways that things can go wrong and to suggest to the hobbyist ways to avoid them or to mitigate them.

Online public discussions with strangers is no substitute for a face-to-face relationship with a mentor.

So, I'm going to enforce PF's rule forbidding public discussion of dangerous topics. Thread closed.
 
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