Why must a Faraday cage be hollow?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the necessity of using a hollow metal mesh or perforated metal in microwave ovens to block radiation. Participants explore the reasons behind this design choice, including visibility, conductivity, and the interaction of microwaves with materials.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question why a solid metal piece is not used instead of a perforated metal sheet, suggesting that a solid piece would also block electromagnetic fields.
  • Others propose economic reasons as a potential factor for using perforated metal.
  • Visibility through the perforated sheet is noted as a benefit, allowing users to see inside the microwave.
  • It is clarified that the holes in the perforated metal must be smaller than one-tenth of the wavelength of the microwave radiation to effectively block it, while still allowing visible light to pass through.
  • One participant explains that the wavelength of the microwave radiation (2.45GHz) is 12 cm, leading to a discussion about the size of the holes and visibility through them.
  • Concerns are raised about the heating of thin metals in microwaves, with a question posed about why perforated metals do not become very hot or produce sparks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and functionality of using perforated metal versus solid metal, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the interaction of microwaves with materials and the effectiveness of different designs, which may not be fully resolved.

Clara Chung
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A metal piece has no E field inside too. Why must the microwave use a metal mesh with hollow spaces to block radiation? They can simply use a metal piece just like the interior part of the box.
 
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For economic reasons?
 
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So you can see through the window.
 
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Clara Chung said:
Why must the microwave use a metal mesh with hollow spaces to block radiation? They can simply use a metal piece just like the interior part of the box

russ_watters said:
So you can see through the window.
exactly
 
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Clara Chung said:
Why must the microwave use a metal mesh with hollow spaces to block radiation?
Note that it is not a mesh that is used but it is a sheet of perforated metal. That is easier to clean and more conductive. If the dimensions of a hole are all less than about one tenth of a wavelength then microwave radiation cannot radiate through the hole. You can see inside through the perforations because light has a much shorter wavelength than microwaves. The outside of the perforated sheet is painted black to make it easier for you to see inside without problems from external lighting.

The 2.45GHz microwave radiation used has a wavelength of 12 cm so you might ask why they do not use 12 mm holes? The answer is that, from a distance, you can see through many small holes better than through a few large ones.
 
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Baluncore said:
Note that it is not a mesh that is used but it is a sheet of perforated metal. That is easier to clean and more conductive. If the dimensions of a hole are all less than about one tenth of a wavelength then microwave radiation cannot radiate through the hole. You can see inside through the perforations because light has a much shorter wavelength than microwaves. The outside of the perforated sheet is painted black to make it easier for you to see inside without problems from external lighting.

The 2.45GHz microwave radiation used has a wavelength of 12 cm so you might ask why they do not use 12 mm holes? The answer is that, from a distance, you can see through many small holes better than through a few large ones.

Thin metals become very hot when they are put into the microwave oven because the ke of electrons increases while it reflects microwave and may produce spark. Why won't the perforated metals become very hot and produce spark?
 

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