Why Must the Parameter p be an Integer in U(1) Representations?

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The discussion revolves around the irreducible representations of the Lie group U(1) and the requirement that the parameter p must be an integer. Participants are exploring the relationship between the representations of U(1) and its Lie algebra u(1), as well as the implications of U(1) being not simply connected.

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  • Participants are examining the derivation of the Lie algebra of U(1) and questioning the original poster's understanding of the representations. There are inquiries about the meaning of certain terms and the implications of U(1) being not simply connected.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the properties of U(1) on its representations. Some participants are providing clarifications and raising questions about the assumptions made in the original post. The discussion is active, with various interpretations being considered.

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Participants note that U(1) is connected and compact, which may influence the correspondence between representations and the Lie algebra. The requirement for p to be an integer is under scrutiny, with references to the behavior of the exponential map and the nature of the group.

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Hello, perhaps this is the most dumb question ever, but I don't see why it holds.
I'm looking at the irreducible representations of the Lie group U(1). To find them I considered the irreps of the lie algebra u(1). These irreps are obviously 1 dimensional and are given by f(a i ) = p a i for some real number p. If I now exponentiate this result I find that the irreducible representations of U(1) are given by g( exp(i theta) ) = exp(i p theta). But I read that p must be an integer. I cannot see however why this must be true! :(

Thanks in advance
 
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What is "a i"?

Of course, have you worked out the lie algebra of U(1) correctly? Are you allowing for the fact that you really only want unitary reps, and that even if as claimed the lie algebra is just the complex numbers that this is not a semi-simple lie algebra over C?
 
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For every integer n, exp( 2 n pi i theta) is the same element of U(1) as exp(i theta). Hence, g( exp(i theta)) = g( exp( 2 n pi i theta)) for every integer n.
 
matt grime said:
What is "a i"?

Of course, have you worked out the lie algebra of U(1) correctly? Are you allowing for the fact that you really only want unitary reps, and that even if as claimed the lie algebra is just the complex numbers that this is not a semi-simple lie algebra over C?

Let me clarfiy my derivation of the Lie algebra of U(1). Let exp(i theta) be an arbitrary element of U(1). Then the Lie algebra is the tangent space at the identity element, so u(1) is spanned by the basis vector i. This means that u(1) = { ai | a in R }.
 
Since U(1) is not simply connected the correspondence between representations of U(1) and u(1) fails to hold generally.
 
matt grime said:
Since U(1) is not simply connected the correspondence between representations of U(1) and u(1) fails to hold generally.

I'm not sure what you mean. Because U(1) is not simply connected, any Lie Group that is a covering of U(1) shares a Lie algebra with U(1).

However, U(1) is connected and compact, and therefore the exponential map from u(1) to U(1) is onto.

Isn't this enough foe what Pietjuh wants?
 
I am not entirely shure what it is pietjuh actually wants, to be honest.
 
Sorry, Pietjuh, I didn't see my typo until now

George Jones said:
For every integer n, exp( 2 n pi i theta) is the same element of U(1) as exp(i theta). Hence, g( exp(i theta)) = g( exp( 2 n pi i theta)) for every integer n.

Cleary, this should be g( exp(i theta)) = g( exp( 2 n pi i + i theta)).

Now do you see why p must be an integer?
 

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