Why not sterile particles as dark matter?

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The discussion revolves around the hypothesis of sterile particles as a candidate for dark matter, contrasting it with the more commonly accepted WIMP model. Participants explore the implications of sterile particles, their production mechanisms, and the challenges associated with them, including their interaction properties and consistency with cosmological data.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether sterile particles could adequately describe dark matter, suggesting that the preference for WIMPs may stem from their prediction by supersymmetry (SUSY).
  • Concerns are raised about how truly sterile particles could have been produced, with one participant proposing gravitational processes in the early universe, though they note potential inconsistencies with current cosmological data.
  • There is discussion about the production of sterile neutrinos, including the role of neutrino oscillations and the implications for the observed solar neutrino flux.
  • One participant speculates on the possibility of having a very small electroweak charge for sterile particles, questioning if this could lead to a significant equilibrium concentration despite low production and annihilation rates.
  • Challenges specific to sterile neutrinos are highlighted, including their rapid movement which may hinder the formation of large-scale structures in the universe.
  • Another participant mentions that typical production methods for sterile neutrinos face significant issues, particularly in relation to structure formation, but suggests that low keV mass neutrinos produced via heavy scalar decay could be a viable option.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the viability of sterile particles as dark matter candidates, with no consensus reached on their production mechanisms or implications for cosmological observations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the current understanding of sterile particles, including unresolved questions about their production and interaction properties, as well as the dependence on specific models and assumptions.

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It seems that the most popular hypothesis is that dark matter consists of WIMPs. Can the existing data be described with sterile particles rather than ones that interact through the weak force? Is the only reason to prefer WIMPs that they are predicted by SUSY? (To me, as a nonspecialist, SUSY seems like a failed idea.)
 
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If the particles are truly sterile, how were they produced?
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
If the particles are truly sterile, how were they produced?

Ah...that makes sense...

I guess one possibility is they could have been created by gravitational processes in the very early universe, but then I suppose that in order to match the current density of dark matter, we would have needed a high density at early times, which would not be consistent with cosmological data. Or we could imagine sufficiently energetic gravitational processes in the more recent past, but that seems unlikely.

Why do the above considerations not apply to sterile neutrinos, though? We can have neutrino oscillations to produce them, I guess...? I don't understand how this can be consistent with the observed solar neutrino flux.

Is it possible to make their electroweak charge very small (much less than for neutrinos or quarks), but not zero? I would think that their rate of production would then be very small, but their rate of annihilation would also be very small. Wouldn't that imply that their equilibrium concentration could be significant? Or is there some principle similar to quantization of electric charge that says you can't have an electroweak charge less than the standard unit?
 
There are only two problems with sterile neutrinos: "sterile" and "neutrinos".

Absolutely sterile we covered. You're right that almost sterile might be made to work, depending on how almost is almost. Neutrinos have the additional problem that they move too fast to create the large scale structure we see. If you try and make the sterile neutrino heavy to fix that, its oscillation probability goes way, way down, so you don't make very many. (ueV things mix poorly with GeV things)
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
If the particles are truly sterile, how were they produced?

would axions or ultra light scalar qualify as sterile?
 
Vanadium 50 said:
There are only two problems with sterile neutrinos: "sterile" and "neutrinos".

Absolutely sterile we covered. You're right that almost sterile might be made to work, depending on how almost is almost. Neutrinos have the additional problem that they move too fast to create the large scale structure we see. If you try and make the sterile neutrino heavy to fix that, its oscillation probability goes way, way down, so you don't make very many. (ueV things mix poorly with GeV things)

Yea typically sterile neutrinos that are used for the purpose of creating dark matter have a significant production problem. Most of the methods (resonant production etc) found in the literature don't really work well from a model building point of view (they typically lead to conflicts with structure formation), but the method that is still viable is relatively low kev mass neutrinos produced via the decay of a heavy scalar. Often this is wrapped into the physics of the inflaton, but in principle it could come from many different larger embeddings.
 
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