# Why period is half ? Spring problem

1. Nov 13, 2013

### k31453

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
A mass m slides along a frictionless horizontal surface at speed v initial. It strikes a spring of constant k attached to a rigid wall. After a completely elastic encounter with the spring, the mass heads back in the direction it came from.

(a)In terms of k, m, and v initial, determine how long the mass is in contact with the spring.

(b)In terms of k, m, and v initial, determine the maximum compression of the spring.

2. Relevant equations

The one thing i dont know is why period = 1/2 ??

3. The attempt at a solution

I know horizontal force will be only the force exert by spring.
I know the algebra below:
f= 1/2π * √(k/m)

Period = P = 1/f ergo
t = P/2
= 1/2* 1/f
= 1/2 * 2π √(m/k)
= π √(m/k)
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

2. Relevant equations

3. The attempt at a solution

Last edited: Nov 13, 2013
2. Nov 13, 2013

### Staff: Mentor

Think about the difference between this scenario and the "usual" spring oscillator where the mass is fixed to the end of the spring. What constitutes a full cycle of the oscillation?

3. Nov 13, 2013

### Basic_Physics

I think you mean that the mass will be in contact with the spring for half the period of oscillation (if the mass was attached to the spring).

4. Nov 13, 2013

### k31453

Yes BASIC But how ?

And I know when max displacement the T is gonna be 1.

5. Nov 13, 2013

### cepheid

Staff Emeritus
You should listen to what gneill said. Suppose you started at zero compression or stretch (as is the case here) and max inward speed. If the mass had been attached, what would *happen* during a full period of oscillation?

How much of that happens here? Hint: the mass loses contact with the spring when the spring force goes to zero.

6. Nov 14, 2013

### Basic_Physics

half period

Assume the mass is attached to the spring - a necessary condition for SHM to occur.
At position 1 the spring is relaxed.
At position 2 the mass is at its rightmost extreme position and the spring is at max compression.
At position 3 the spring is back to its relaxed state.
At position 4 the mass is at its leftmost extreme position and the spring is at max extension.
At position 5 the spring is again relaxed.

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