Why Should the Mole Ratio in Alkaline Buffers Be 5:1 Base to Acid?

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The discussion revolves around the mole ratio in alkaline buffers, specifically questioning why the ratio of base to acid should be 5:1. Participants explore the implications of this ratio in the context of buffer preparation and the role of sulfuric acid and its diprotic nature.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the required mole ratio for forming an alkaline buffer, initially believing it should be 2:1 instead of 5:1.
  • Another participant hints at the diprotic nature of sulfuric acid, suggesting that this characteristic may influence the buffer composition.
  • A participant proposes that the focus should shift to bisulfate rather than sulfuric acid, questioning the concentration implications in the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of reaction stoichiometry and the amounts of substances involved, challenging the previous assumptions about bisulfate.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the mole ratio or the correct interpretation of the acid-base components in the buffer system. Multiple competing views remain regarding the role of sulfuric acid and bisulfate.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the stoichiometric relationships and the implications of diprotic acids in buffer systems. There are unresolved mathematical steps in applying the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation to the proposed scenarios.

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Homework Statement
Which combination will produce an alkaline buffer

a. 0.1 mol ammonia & 0.05 mol sulfuric acid
b. 0.5 mol ammonia & 0.10 mol sulfuric acid
c. 0.1 mol acetic acid & 0.05 mol NaOH
d. 0.1 mol acetic acid & 0.50 mol NaOH
Relevant Equations
Henderson Hasselbach equation
THe answer is supposed to be (B) but I'm not understanding properly

I initially chose A - to form an alkaline buffer, the # mol of acid should be half of this. But this doesn't seem to be the case

I don't understand why the mol of base in this case should be 5x the mole of acid

your help is greatly appreciated, as always!
 
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Hint: sulfuric acid is diprotic.
 
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Ok that does help - so we should be looking at bisulfate rather than sulfuric acid
but wouldn't the concentration of bisulfate be the same i.e. the second part of the henderson hasselbach would still be

for a. log (0.05/0.1) = log(0.5)

and for
b. log(0.1/0.5) = log(0.2)

I feel like i'm missing something obvious ....
 
stunner5000pt said:
a. 0.1 mol ammonia & 0.05 mol sulfuric acid

stunner5000pt said:
bisulfate

Nope, not bisulfate. Just look at the reaction stoichiometry and amounts of substances involved.
 
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