Why the Electric field outside 3 infinite boards is 0?

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The discussion revolves around the electric field produced by three infinite charged plates arranged along the x-axis, with the middle plate positively charged and the outer plates grounded. Participants are exploring why the electric field outside the plates is zero.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the implications of grounding the outer plates and the relationship between electric potential and electric field. Some participants discuss the work done in moving charges from infinity to the plates and the resulting electric field behavior.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts, with some providing insights into the grounding effect and its implications on electric potential. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the calculations of electric fields and forces on the plates, with no explicit consensus reached.

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There are references to theoretical assumptions about potential at infinity and the grounding of plates, which may not be fully defined in the original problem statement. Participants are also discussing the division of charge on the middle plate and its effects on the electric field.

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1. Three boards are in the x axis. the middle one is in x=0 and charged in a positive sign density is: σ. the other 2 boards are in : x=d and x=-2d. This 2 boards are grounded.

The question is why outside the boards the ElecField is 0?
I though that i don't waste energy to bring an electric charge from x=∞ to x=d because the potential in ∞ is 0 (from my theoretical assumption - but in the question nobody told me that).

So, what is the best answer for that? Thanks!
 
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I think, yours is the best answer! Those plates are grounded, that is, they are at the same potential as infinity. No work is done when a charge moves from infinity to those plates, so the electric force (-negative gradient of the potential energy) has to be zero.

Of course, it would not be true if there were charges outside the grounded plates.

ehild
 
Another question about that: I found that on the middle plate the charge is divided in 2:1 ratio: The electric field from X=0 to X=d is:E1 = (8/3)*pi*k*σ
and from X=0 to X=-2d is: E2 = (-4/3)*pi*k*σ.
If I want to find the total force on the middle plat should I do: F=σ*(E1-E2) ??
Thanks
 
It is all right but you can simplify the result you got for E1, E2, and F.

ehild
 
Sorry, it is half of that: F=σ*(E1-E2)/2

See for example: http://web.mit.edu/8.02t/www/materials/StudyGuide/guide04.pdf
The charge does not act on itself, and half the electric field between the plates is due to the charges on the middle plate.
You can also derive it from the energy of the electric field between the plates. The energy density is U=1/2ε0E2. If the middle plate is moved by dx, the electric field does work, and that is equal to Fdx. At the same time, this work of the field will decrease the energy. The change of energy is equal to the work done.

ehild
 
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