Why Use bh/2 for the Area of a Non-Right Triangle?

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The discussion revolves around the area calculation of a non-right triangle, specifically questioning the validity of using the formula \( \frac{bh}{2} \) in this context. Participants are exploring the general applicability of this formula beyond right triangles.

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  • Some participants attempt to clarify why the area formula \( \frac{bh}{2} \) is applicable to all triangles, not just right-angled ones. Others question the assumptions behind the formula's use in non-right triangles and explore geometric constructions to support their reasoning.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing various perspectives on the area formula. Some offer geometric interpretations and constructions to illustrate their points, while others express confusion about the formula's applicability to non-right triangles. There is no explicit consensus, but multiple interpretations and approaches are being explored.

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Participants note that for the geometric constructions to hold, specific conditions regarding the positioning of obtuse triangles must be met. There is also mention of the need for clarity on the definitions and assumptions related to triangle types.

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If the y-coordinate of the center of mass is given by (1/A)*∫y dA, how come the solution uses bh/2 as the area? This triangle isn't right angled so that area formula should not hold. What am I missing?
 

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Gauss M.D. said:
how come the solution uses bh/2 as the area? This triangle isn't right angled so that area formula should not hold. What am I missing?

The area of any triangle is given by bh/2, not just a right-angled one.
 
ap123 said:
The area of any triangle is given by bh/2, not just a right-angled one.

What he said.

A right triangle is basically like half of a square, cut down in a diagonal. The area of a square is b*h (or side^2). So a right triangle's area should be bh/2.

In the case of non-right triangles, this still holds true. Cut a parallelogram diagonally and you get two triangles (just like the square, except without 90 degree angles). The area of a parallelogram is b*h, just like the square's area. Therefore the triangle's area is still bh/2.
 
Dieinhell100 said:
What he said.

A right triangle is basically like half of a square, cut down in a diagonal. The area of a square is b*h (or side^2). So a right triangle's area should be bh/2.

In the case of non-right triangles, this still holds true. Cut a parallelogram diagonally and you get two triangles (just like the square, except without 90 degree angles). The area of a parallelogram is b*h, just like the square's area. Therefore the triangle's area is still bh/2.
A right triangle is not always; "half of a square, cut down in a diagonal". This is only true for equilateral right triangles. All right triangles are; "half of a rectangle, cut on a diagonal".
 
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Gauss M.D. said:
This triangle isn't right angled so that area formula should not hold.
Drop a perpendicular from the top of the triangle to the base, cutting it into two right triangles. Say this meets the base a distance c from the lower left corner.
The two right triangles have areas ch and (b-c)h. Add them up.
 
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Imagine cutting your triangle into horizontal strips, as in your diagram.
Then slide each strip in the stack to make one side [approximately] vertical.
The base didn't change. The height didn't change. The area hasn't changed.
Refine your strips. Repeat.
 
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The formula works with scalene triangles too. Suppose you are looking for the area of the green triangle ABC. First find the area of the big right triangle ADB and subtract from it the area of the smaller blue right triangle CDB.
Triangle area.png

##A_{\text{ADB}}=\frac{1}{2}(BD)\times(AC+CD)##
##A_{\text{CDB}}=\frac{1}{2}(BD)\times(CD)##
##A_{\text{ABC}}=\frac{1}{2}(BD)\times(AC+CD)-\frac{1}{2}(BD)\times(CD)=\frac{1}{2}(BD)\times(AC)=\frac{1}{2}(\text{height}\times\text{base}).##
 
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haruspex said:
Drop a perpendicular from the top of the triangle to the base, cutting it into two right triangles. Say this meets the base a distance c from the lower left corner.
The two right triangles have areas ch and (b-c)h. Add them up.
For this geometric construction to work consistantly, obtuse triangles must be positioned such that the longest side, i.e. that side opposite the obtuse angle must form the base. With this qualification this is construction is correct.
 

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