Why was the F block of the periodic table created?

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The discussion revolves around the F block of the periodic table, specifically focusing on the reasons for the synthesis of certain elements within this block. Participants explore the nature of these elements, their applications, and the historical context of their creation, including both scientific curiosity and practical uses.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the F block consists of elements that are artificially synthesized, while others challenge this by noting that all lanthanides and some actinides occur naturally.
  • One participant emphasizes that Promethium (Pm) is an exception among lanthanides, as it cannot be found naturally and must be synthesized.
  • Several participants mention practical applications of F block elements, such as their use in fluorescent lamps, LEDs, smoke detectors, and various technologies, indicating their widespread presence in everyday items.
  • There is a historical reference to the synthesis of non-natural actinide elements during the Manhattan Project, specifically mentioning Plutonium's role in nuclear weapons.
  • Fun facts about the naming of lanthanides and the etymology of "rare earth" elements are shared, highlighting misconceptions about their abundance and the historical context of their discovery.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the natural versus synthetic status of F block elements, with no consensus reached on the necessity or motivations behind their synthesis. The discussion includes both agreement on certain applications and disagreement on definitions and classifications.

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Some statements rely on specific definitions of "natural" and "synthetic," which may not be universally accepted. The discussion also touches on historical and linguistic nuances that may not be fully resolved.

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Basically, the F block is a series in the periodic table that consist of elements that are artificially synthesized. My question is, why were these elements synthesized? What was the need of synthesizing such elements?
 
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I am confident others with expertise in this area will provide specific scientific reasons, but arguably the underlying one is the same that accounts for all science - Curiosity.
 
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Ophiolite said:
I am confident others with expertise in this area will provide specific scientific reasons, but arguably the underlying one is the same that accounts for all science - Curiosity.
Thank you for the answer.
 
nineteen said:
Basically, the F block is a series in the periodic table that consist of elements that are artificially synthesized.

Nope. All lanthanides and some actinides are perfectly 'natural'.

My question is, why were these elements synthesized? What was the need of synthesizing such elements?

I am with Ophiolite on this one.
 
Borek said:
Nope. All lanthanides and some actinides are perfectly 'natural'.
My research is on Lanthanides and to very slightly correct Borek's statement, Promethium (Pm), the 5th element in the lanthanide series, is naturally unavailable. It can only be artificially synthesized and is radioactive.

nineteen said:
Basically, the F block is a series in the periodic table that consist of elements that are artificially synthesized. My question is, why were these elements synthesized? What was the need of synthesizing such elements?
By the way, look up to the ceiling in some building. If you see a fluorescent lamp or LED lamp, the chance is, there are f-block elements in it. Specifically, Ce, Eu, and Tb for fluorescent lamps, and Ce for LED lamps. (Just to note that these days, there are increasingly more "warm" fluorescent lamps and LED lamps, which the composing elements are different.) If you have a cellphone or iphone or whatever phone with a camera, there's a little yellowish device next to it that you can use it for flashlight. Most likely, it is made out of Ce:YAG on a blue emitting diode.

If I recall correctly, smoke detectors contain Americium (I forgot the specific isotope), a crucial element for the device to work. There are also depleted Uranium ammunition and armor plates. Neodymium is commonly used in lasers and magnets. Gadolinium compounds are used as an imaging agent for MRIs.

Basically, they are used everywhere.
 
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HAYAO said:
My research is on Lanthanides and to very slightly correct Borek's statement, Promethium (Pm), the 5th element in the lanthanide series, is naturally unavailable. It can only be artificially synthesized and is radioactive.

My bad, completely forgot about it :frown:
 
nineteen said:
Basically, the F block is a series in the periodic table that consist of elements that are artificially synthesized. My question is, why were these elements synthesized? What was the need of synthesizing such elements?
The first non-natural actinide elements where synthesized in the Manhattan atomic bomb project. Namely Plutonium was used in the "Fat man" bomb droped on Nagasaki.
 
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HAYAO said:
My research is on Lanthanides and to very slightly correct Borek's statement, Promethium (Pm), the 5th element in the lanthanide series, is naturally unavailable. It can only be artificially synthesized and is radioactive.By the way, look up to the ceiling in some building. If you see a fluorescent lamp or LED lamp, the chance is, there are f-block elements in it. Specifically, Ce, Eu, and Tb for fluorescent lamps, and Ce for LED lamps. (Just to note that these days, there are increasingly more "warm" fluorescent lamps and LED lamps, which the composing elements are different.) If you have a cellphone or iphone or whatever phone with a camera, there's a little yellowish device next to it that you can use it for flashlight. Most likely, it is made out of Ce:YAG on a blue emitting diode.

If I recall correctly, smoke detectors contain Americium (I forgot the specific isotope), a crucial element for the device to work. There are also depleted Uranium ammunition and armor plates. Neodymium is commonly used in lasers and magnets. Gadolinium compounds are used as an imaging agent for MRIs.

Basically, they are used everywhere.
Wow! Thank you so much for the information. Your comment is very helpful thank you again.
 
DrDu said:
The first non-natural actinide elements where synthesized in the Manhattan atomic bomb project. Namely Plutonium was used in the "Fat man" bomb droped on Nagasaki.
Thank you for commenting, it is very informative.
 
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Fun factoid: four of the lanthanides are named after the same town in Sweden, the location of the mine that produced the ores from which they were first discovered.

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(source: Wikipedia)
 

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jtbell said:
Fun factoid: four of the lanthanides are named after the same town in Sweden, the location of the mine that produced the ores from which they were first discovered.

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(source: Wikipedia)

And because these minerals contained rather low content of lanthanide ions and was also difficult to separate each other due to similar chemical properties, they were named "rare-earth" (lanthanides + scandium and yttrium). This is a very misleading name because rare-earth elements are rather plentiful in Earth's crust.Fun fact: "Rare-Earth's" in Japanese is "希土類 (kidorui)", however it used to be written "稀土類 (also read kidorui)". The first letter of the latter form literally only means "rare". However, it was changed later into the first letter of the former form, which can mean "rare", "hope", or "noble". I am speculating that this is because they realized the importance of these elements after their properties were studied.

(Note to moderators: I believe using foreign language was appropriate in this case.)
 
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Further to the etymological point. At the time the term 'rare earth' was coined, 'earth' was sometimes used as a synonym for an oxide, which was the form in which most (well, some... i think the historical issue may be a bit muddled, or maybe it is just my recollection that is) rare Earth's (at the time) were found. Just one of those quirky linguistic things.

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