Why wouldn't activating the switch make a difference?

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The discussion revolves around the heat generated when closing a switch in a circuit involving capacitors. Participants are exploring the behavior of voltages across capacitors before and after the switch is closed, particularly focusing on the implications for heat generation.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the voltage distribution across the capacitors both before and after the switch is closed. Questions are raised about the flow of current and the steady state of the circuit.

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Some participants have provided insights regarding the voltages at different nodes and the behavior of the circuit in steady state. There is an exploration of whether closing the switch affects current flow, with some expressing confidence in their understanding of the situation.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions related to the steady state of the circuit and the conditions under which heat generation occurs. Participants are also considering the implications of the circuit's configuration on the voltages across the capacitors.

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What is the heat generated on closing the switch?

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On closing the switch, the potential difference across each capacitor should change which would cause it to charge and hence cause heat loss through the capacitors.

But there is no lots of heat. Why?
 
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Before the switch is closed, what are the voltages at all of the nodes?
 
berkeman said:
Before the switch is closed, what are the voltages at all of the nodes?

20 to the left of 4uF, 20-100/9 to its right and 0 to the right of 5uF.
I don't know how to do the calculations once the switch is closed
 
EddiePhys said:
20-100/9 to its right
How do you arrive at that? Is there a current flowing?
 
haruspex said:
How do you arrive at that? Is there a current flowing?
Initially, yes, while the capacitors were getting charged(before reaching steady state)
 
EddiePhys said:
Initially, yes, while the capacitors were getting charged(before reaching steady state)
What about the steady state? What are the voltages across the two capacitors?
 
EddiePhys said:
Initially, yes, while the capacitors were getting charged(before reaching steady state)
What is the steady state prior to the switch being closed, after the 4μF capacitor is charged ?
 
SammyS said:
What is the steady state prior to the switch being closed, after the 4μF capacitor is charged ?

I think I got it.
In steady state before the switch is closed, since no current is flowing, the potential difference across the 5uF capacitor is zero and the entire potential difference appears across the 4uF capacitor.

Once the switch is closed, it makes no difference i.e no current would flow because the part of the circuit connected to the negative terminal is already at -20V. i.e the entire potential will still appear across the 4uf capacitor

Is this correct?
 
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EddiePhys said:
I think I got it.
In steady state before the switch is closed, since no current is flowing, the potential difference across the 5uF capacitor is zero and the entire potential difference appears across the 4uF capacitor.

Once the switch is closed, it makes no difference i.e no current would flow because the part of the circuit connected to the negative terminal is already at -20V. i.e the entire potential will still appear across the 4uf capacitor

Is this correct?
Yes.
 
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cnh1995 said:
Yes.
Okay. Thanks! :D
 

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