Wigner-Eckart theorem and reduced matrix element

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Wigner-Eckart theorem and the concept of reduced matrix elements in the context of spherical tensors. Participants express difficulties in understanding the meaning and implications of reduced matrix elements, as well as their calculation and relation to Clebsch-Gordan coefficients.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the meaning of the reduced matrix element in the Wigner-Eckart theorem and seeks clarification on the concept of spherical tensors.
  • Another participant indicates they share similar difficulties regarding the topic.
  • A third participant suggests that typically, one only needs to calculate a single matrix element, often the one with the maximal ##M_J##, and that this can be divided by the corresponding Clebsch-Gordan coefficient to obtain the reduced matrix element.
  • This participant also notes that once the reduced matrix element is known, all other matrix elements can be derived by multiplying with the appropriate Clebsch-Gordan coefficients.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the understanding of reduced matrix elements, as participants express varying levels of confusion and seek clarification. Multiple viewpoints on the calculation method are presented, but no definitive agreement is reached.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in understanding the foundational concepts of spherical tensors and the Wigner-Eckart theorem, as well as the dependence on the definitions of terms like "reduced matrix element" and "Clebsch-Gordan coefficient." Unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions about the properties of spherical tensors are also noted.

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Wigner-Eckart theorem and "reduced matrix element"

Hello,

I am studying the Wigner-Eckart theorem and I have found some difficulties understanding the reduced matrix element of a spherical tensor.
In fact, a spherical tensor is commonly defined through its transformation properties, and I imagine it as a "vector of angular operators": the Wigner-Eckart theorem evaluates one matrix element of a component of this vector. However, I cannot understand the meaning of the reduced matrix element involved in the expression of the theorem.
Please, could you explain to me the "idea" behind it, or where is the mistake in my idea of spherical tensors (if there is a mistake)?

Thank you very much for your help!
 
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The point is that you only have to calculate only one matrix element -- in most cases, the one with maximal ##M_J## is easiest to calculate -- divide it by the corresponding Clebsch-Gordan coefficient to get the reduced matrix element. From this you can calculate all the other matrix elements by multiplication with the corresponding CG coefficients.
 
Thank you
DrDu said:
The point is that you only have to calculate only one matrix element -- in most cases, the one with maximal ##M_J## is easiest to calculate -- divide it by the corresponding Clebsch-Gordan coefficient to get the reduced matrix element. From this you can calculate all the other matrix elements by multiplication with the corresponding CG coefficients.
Thank you do you have problems for this theory
 

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